Well \relative in practice doesn't save me much time because a fourth with out ' or , is not enough and I can't seem to use \relative for the whole song. (could be I just don't know how)
but even then I must fine tune the octave which takes me as much time as if I entered the , 's in the first place. Additionally I am only type setting monphonic songs with no accompaiment. Most of these songs ranges are within an octave. e' f' g' a' b' c'' d'' and sometimes the b below. simply put a fourth isn't enough for me. Aaron _______________________________________________ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user