Am Mo., 5. Sept. 2022 um 21:34 Uhr schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld <hah...@hahnjo.de>: > > On Mon, 2022-09-05 at 21:22 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: > > Am Mo., 5. Sept. 2022 um 19:50 Uhr schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld via > > Discussions on LilyPond development <lilypond-devel@gnu.org>: > > > > > > On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 22:38 +0200, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > > > This needs to be done for lots of code in lots of files, so it will be > > > > quite a major change to the source even though it is just a > > > > straightforward > > > > translation. > > > > > > I don't like this idea very much just two weeks before branching for a > > > new stable release. No matter how "straightforward", I find the risk > > > too high that something goes wrong, or that it turns out not to be a > > > good idea for some other reason, or that we still find it insufficient > > > and an entirely different solution is required... > > > > > > For me, this also means we should go without !1510 for the release. > > > It's unfortunate, but not the end of the world; and I personally think > > > it's worse to delay the entire release by weeks / months or even an > > > undetermined amount of time. > > > > > > Jonas > > > > I think a stable release without meaningful error-messages as promised > > by !1510 is unusable for power-users. > > So we've had this discussion before:
Indeed > If I follow the logic, we must not > have a stable release until the error messages are equally good / > better than they have been before. This problem has been known for two > years, with very little activity before Jean started working on it in > May (?). What I want to avoid is blocking the release for two more > years. (probably / hopefully exaggerating, but it *will* change the > schedule) Well, one could argue the current 2.23.12 without !1510 is as unusable as a new stable without !1510 Thus no need to postpone 2.24. For large scheme codings one can just go the route described above. Maybe document/recommend it somewhere? Not sure, though... Cheers, Harm