On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:43 PM, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: > Janek Warchoł <janek.lilyp...@gmail.com> writes: >> Obviously, Graham would like to "dumb down" the rules as much as >> possible indeed (as long as he is the Release Manager it means less >> work for him). But he didn't say that the rules *must* be 100% >> dumbed-down. >> I think that you exaggerated a bit. > > No, I was commenting on our current policies.
Ah, ok. I was talking about Graham's attitude to new policies. >>> In particular since it would make those others feel like they count, >>> do something for the success of the project, and are part of a team >>> turning out code, decisions, and releases. >> >> I see that you're angry with current system. > > It is not a matter of angry. It fails to do its job, and does it in a > manner that is damaging to the morale of the developers. ok, bad word - my mistake (i mean, a wording mistake - i've named your feeling/attitude/.. wrongly). Replace with "disappointed" or whatever you find most suitable. :) >> What do you think about my revised proposal? I think it addresses >> these issues. > > I think we have arrived at a point where experimenting around with > decision-making systems does not make sense. Did i understand correctly that in your opinion my proposal is another "no thinking, monkey-like" "facts make the decision themselves" system, similar to current one? Sure, it can be used in that way, but it allows a lot more. > Amendments to the policies > means that we change the ways and degrees to which we depend on luck. > It's like fiddling with motor parameters for a car that does not start. > Perhaps it is time to walk. At least to the gas station. Why not. But who'll carry the gasoline? ;) On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Trevor Daniels <t.dani...@treda.co.uk> wrote: > a) a release-meister with responsibility to take all decisions. > Would need to be someone with a similarly wide overview. I think there may be no person with overview encompassing whole LilyPond. When Han-Wen was the decisionmaker, Lily was smaller and most of the code was written by 2 people. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote: > I could envisage a stable release being pushed out because the RM > thought it optimum, but another team member being significantly annoyed > because, say, it had a bug that stopped his music setting. Like David, i don't think that any /developer/ would be concerned. For example, i would be using Lily *compiled from git* exclusively if GNU/Linux was my primary OS. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:29 PM, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: > The rules are supposed to help us, not block us. We need to be able to > deal _appropriately_ with them, and there is no rule set that would fit > every situation when followed blindly. +1 > Well, I am obviously currently in a mood to dismiss the parliament and > declare military rule, so I probably should take a break of a few days > in this discussion. I don't find myself able to contribute in a manner > that is actually constructive [...] I do find it constructive. (hopefully this is visible in my comments) best, Janek _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
