On 26 juin 2012, at 18:26, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival <gra...@percival-music.ca> writes: > >> Mailing list arguments are a trickier issue. It’s clearly a big >> problem, but this isn’t something we can fix by waving a change of >> policy. I’ll schedule a time to discuss it. We need to do >> something about this, although at the moment I have no immediate >> suggestions. > > I have one. It may sound absurd, but then I have learnt "once you ruled > out the impossible whatever remains however improbable might be > effective", and there are a few things that somehow or other appear to > be hard, particularly for me. Decent communication in electronic media > is one of the things I am spectacularly bad at. One thing that has > turned out to be effective at times is meeting people in person. > > While I won't be as audacious to state that this is a cure-all, it lends > more depth to your communication partners than the rather anonymous > style of communicating through electronic letters does, and has a > lasting effect. It has been more effective in deflating tensions > permanently than other measures I can think of. It is, in a way, > pitiful that this should work, but then it still would be more of a pity > not to make use of that. > > I am living in a sort-of commune in a rural region, in a house next to > the stables of a riding school (my girl friend makes a somewhat > unimpressive living from that). I seem to remember that Werner was away > until the middle of August, and the school holidays last until August > 21st. There is no real need to synchronize to the school holidays since > our activities are more or less independent from that of the school. We > could, however, target Friday August 17th to Tuesday August 21st (or, if > it is more convenient for people, one week later) for a meeting for > programming, composing and talking. It is not like there is a shortage > of programming projects one could tackle together. Guilev2 migration > anybody? > > We could do a few workshops, like "working on the parser", "fiddling > with the backend", "introduction to GOOPS", "becoming friends with the > garbage collector", "scything stinging nettles", "shoveling heaps of > crap" (this can be even practiced without a computer). Accommodation > can be arranged for a number of people. > > If the basic mailing list relations of at least some core of developers > have become more relaxed, it helps for cooperating in creating a more > welcoming atmosphere. One can better compensate for other people's > fault. I am, of course, a natural contender for organizing such a > meeting since few people would likely deny that my own ways of > interacting with others on our lists could benefit a lot from > improvement. > > So the core data would be "Dortmund Germany" (about 10 miles from there) > and the proposal for a date would Friday August 17th to Tuesday August > 21st, or one week later. > > Yes, it sounds silly as a means to address the GOP question. But once I > have ruled out all mature and sane ways of addressing a problem, I have > not rarely have had some success trying the silly ones. > > Are you with me? > > -- > David Kastrup > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-devel mailing list > lilypond-devel@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Hey all, Sorry for the long delay. The second batch of dates in August are doable for me (Friday the 24th to Tuesday the 28th). Keep me posted! ~Mike _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
