Graham Percival <gra...@percival-music.ca> writes: > Mailing list arguments are a trickier issue. It’s clearly a big > problem, but this isn’t something we can fix by waving a change of > policy. I’ll schedule a time to discuss it. We need to do > something about this, although at the moment I have no immediate > suggestions.
I have one. It may sound absurd, but then I have learnt "once you ruled out the impossible whatever remains however improbable might be effective", and there are a few things that somehow or other appear to be hard, particularly for me. Decent communication in electronic media is one of the things I am spectacularly bad at. One thing that has turned out to be effective at times is meeting people in person. While I won't be as audacious to state that this is a cure-all, it lends more depth to your communication partners than the rather anonymous style of communicating through electronic letters does, and has a lasting effect. It has been more effective in deflating tensions permanently than other measures I can think of. It is, in a way, pitiful that this should work, but then it still would be more of a pity not to make use of that. I am living in a sort-of commune in a rural region, in a house next to the stables of a riding school (my girl friend makes a somewhat unimpressive living from that). I seem to remember that Werner was away until the middle of August, and the school holidays last until August 21st. There is no real need to synchronize to the school holidays since our activities are more or less independent from that of the school. We could, however, target Friday August 17th to Tuesday August 21st (or, if it is more convenient for people, one week later) for a meeting for programming, composing and talking. It is not like there is a shortage of programming projects one could tackle together. Guilev2 migration anybody? We could do a few workshops, like "working on the parser", "fiddling with the backend", "introduction to GOOPS", "becoming friends with the garbage collector", "scything stinging nettles", "shoveling heaps of crap" (this can be even practiced without a computer). Accommodation can be arranged for a number of people. If the basic mailing list relations of at least some core of developers have become more relaxed, it helps for cooperating in creating a more welcoming atmosphere. One can better compensate for other people's fault. I am, of course, a natural contender for organizing such a meeting since few people would likely deny that my own ways of interacting with others on our lists could benefit a lot from improvement. So the core data would be "Dortmund Germany" (about 10 miles from there) and the proposal for a date would Friday August 17th to Tuesday August 21st, or one week later. Yes, it sounds silly as a means to address the GOP question. But once I have ruled out all mature and sane ways of addressing a problem, I have not rarely have had some success trying the silly ones. Are you with me? -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel