James <pkx1...@gmail.com> writes: > Hello, > > On 3 January 2012 12:53, Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> wrote: >>>> If we refuse thinking about stable releases by taking GUB as an >>>> excuse, the grand next stable release that will benefit users of >>>> many operating systems is likely to fall in the class "too little, >>>> too late". >>> >>> I second David. Given that we develop within a GNU environment, bugs >>> specific to Windows and Mac shouldn't prevent stable releases. I can >>> even imagine that well announced release candidates for a new stable >>> version attracts developers to help fix issues with problematic >>> platforms. >> >> From a support perspective, not releasing the windows and mac versions >> at the same time is problematic. Many questions and bugreports that >> could be answered with "upgrade to the latest version" all of a sudden >> start depending on the platform that the user is using. > > Yes, Han-Wen beat me to that point. > > So if 2.14 works on OSX but 2.16 doesn't then the user has no choice > but to stick with 2.14 or use a 2.15 branch both which are no no > longer being developed.
Newsflash: 2.16 does not work on OSX. Nor does it work on any other platform. The user has no choice but to stick with 2.14 or use a 2.15 branch which does not apparently work on OSX. > That is a pain to troubleshoot > > There is some wonderful work gone into 2.15 that isn't (and never will > be in 2.14) that the user-base will miss out on. Newsflash: it is already missing out. > As a side note, I came to LP via MacOS X + Lilypad, and ran with > windows only because it is my OS at work. Now I use Linux for all my > LP work and LilyDev in a VM for Dev and doc work (so LilyPond-Book is > not a problem for me and having LilyDev in a VM even if it is in a > Linux OS itself - allows me to use VBox's snapshot for testing or > reverting when I run into git issues or build issues), in fact my > Windows LP work is virtually nil now, unless a user or dev asks for > some second verification. This does not exactly make a strong point about the ability of Windows to attract development. > My question to David, because I am not getting where the 'ire' is > coming from, why do you care if we release dev after dev release vs > stable? <URL:http://xkcd.com/386/> If we look beyond that personality trait, I have a financial interest in LilyPond becoming a package attractive to people with more money than programming skills. A stable release for which the stability and usability aim is more than just "mostly works on OSX and Windows" would be helpful to point to. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
