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From: Joe Neeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Dec 5, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: another skyline problem
To: Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On 12/4/06, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Consider this input:

  {
  \once \override DynamicText #'X-offset = #'-5.0
  %\once \override DynamicText #'Y-offset = #'5.0
    c\ff
  }

  \paper {
    ragged-right = ##t
  }

As can be seen in the attached image, lilypond doesn't move the ff
symbol up -- this is the right action.  However, if you comment out
the line overriding the Y-offset property you can see that it has no
effect, which is problematic.  I'm not sure how this can be solved
elegantly.  Perhaps it's necessary to give Y-offset a new meaning for
grobs which are floating below and above the staff, something like:
`pretend that the parent's vertical position is moved by that amount'.


I don't see that this is a problem. If a user wants the symbol to be moved
from its default position, they can set extra-offset instead of Y-offset. If
a user wants the symbol to be positioned at an absolute offset from its
Y-parent, they can just set outside-staff-position to () in addition to
setting Y-offset.
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