Thanks, Bill!

Can you say any more about how that's working for you in practice?

Best,

Miles

On 8/5/16 4:28 PM, William Edney wrote:
Miles -

You might also check out the Reciprocal Public License: https://opensource.org/licenses/RPL-1.5

Authored by Technical Pursuit, it's direct intent is the same "pay for privacy" business model now enjoyed by companies such as GitHub. In fact, we couch our commercial offering as a 'waiver' allowing you to keep your code private.

Cheers,

- Bill

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Smith, McCoy <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Sec 10 of AGPL does not allow the imposition of additional
    restrictions to it (such as "only for non-commercial uses), and
    section 7 allows a recipient to remove those restrictions.

    You really are trying to develop a non-open source business
    model.  This board is probably not the best place for trying to do
    that.

    -----Original Message-----
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    Miles Fidelman
    Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:15 PM
    To: [email protected]
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    Subject: Re: [License-discuss] licenses for hosted services

    Thanks for the starting points, folks.

    I'm starting to think something like a dual license
    - AGPL for non-commercial uses (AGPL + borrow some of the language
    from CC BY-NC-*), and,
    - Most of the terms of AGPL (re. download of source, etc.) + a
    license fee for commercial use in an SaaS offering

    I'm really wondering if there are any specific examples of someone
    doing this, or of someone trying to do this and running into
    serious snags.
    (You know, learn from other people's experiences, not reinvent the
    wheel, and if there are really good reasons not to try, better to know
    early.)

    And, re. "You might want to post on a non-open source bulletin
    board" -- any thoughts on where to post?

    Thanks Again,

    Miles


    On 8/5/16 2:06 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote:
    >> I'm wondering if anybody has any experience or thoughts about
    licenses that permit self-hosting, and free hosting, but require a
    license fee for for-profit hosting.
    > Of course, such a license would not be open source. However, I
    believe that AGPL would get you very close to the spirit of what
    you want, while still being an open source license.
    AND

    On 8/5/16 1:46 PM, Smith, McCoy wrote:
    > There are any number of licenses written in this way.  CC
    BY-NC-* for example.
    > None of them are open source, however.  See OSD 1 & 6.
    >
    > You might want to post on a non-open source bulletin board.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: License-discuss
    [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>]
    > On Behalf Of Miles Fidelman
    > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:36 AM
    > To: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    > Subject: [License-discuss] licenses for hosted services
    >
    > Hi Folks,
    >
    > I'm working on some code that will eventually be made available
    as both open source code, and a hosted service (think Wordpress,
    Drupal, etc.).
    >
    > I'm wondering if anybody has any experience or thoughts about
    licenses that permit self-hosting, and free hosting, but require a
    license fee for for-profit hosting.
    >
    > It strikes me that hosting is a reasonable business model for
    generating sustaining revenue from open source code, but that it
    gets diluted very quickly if anybody can free-ride (i.e., as much
    as I find it convenient to, at times, set up a quick wordpress
    account on godaddy - it strikes me as just a might unfair that I'm
    paying godaddy, but they're not paying the folks at wordpress, and
    worse, they're siphoning off customers from wordpress).
    >
    > Anybody have thoughts on the matter?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Miles Fidelman
    >
    >
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