Fred, fred trotter wrote at 03:52 (EDT): > I have been burned pretty badly by people who literally rewrote > sections of the GPL to suit them and still called it "GPL" that I know > that some people will try those shenanigans.
The FSF is quite vigilant about handling situations like this -- it's one of the reasons that the GPL text itself is still under a copyright license that forbids modification -- so that situations like this can be dealt with. Please report any such issues to the FSF at <[email protected]>. I hope you so-reported them at the time you encountered them. But, I think that issue is somewhat off the point here: you're talking there about people who are attempting to mislead the public by illegitimately modifying a license text. I doubt the behavior of such people would be curtailed by a packet of license templates that help build proprietary-but-eventually-liberated-code business models. As has been noted in this thread, such business models have been experimented with since the early 1990s, and most software freedom advocates find them, at best, problematic compromises, and, at worst, scourges upon our community. > if every person who benefited indirectly from the GNU compiler would > donate one cent to FSF and one cent to the OSI per year, neither > organization would have any problem paying the bills. People don't pay > because that is the norm in our development culture, this mechanism > could change that. Non-profit fundraising is always going to be difficult for orgs like FSF and OSI, but that's not an argument for violating principles that our community is based on: permission to redistribute with no royalty nor any payment upstream is a fundamental tenant of software freedom. While Free Software licenses should never discriminate *against* charging for distribution, it's just not Free Software if there's a *mandate* to charge money. Also, note that so many volunteers to the FSF give code rather than pennies. That's often much more valuable a contribution, anyway. > Could someone who knows the story well related what problems the > "people on the other side" had? I can speak from my personal experience with these business models. During the Ghostscript era, when I was first working at the FSF, I saw that few people wanted to contribute to GNU Ghostscript. Most people just waited to see what Aladdin would do next, since they knew it'd be released under GPL "eventually". This curtailed the usual culture of Free Software development. Since that practice ended for Ghostscript, there have been a myriad of business models attempting to do this sort of thing, and they all suffer from that fundamental flaw: there's no way build a proper community of developers around a Free Software codebase when there's an incentive to "wait N months and see what the primary proprietary developer liberates". Free Software licenses -- particularly copyleft ones -- are designed to create equal footing for all community participants. Anytime one contributor to the codebase has more power than everyone else (usually, due to holding all the copyrights and operating under terms *other* than the primary Free Software license for the project), it creates serious flaws of all sorts in the community around that project. -- -- bkuhn _______________________________________________ License-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://projects.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss

