On Mar 19, 2004, at 1:12 PM, Fearn, Paul A./Urology wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I am specifically looking to

1. advertise OSD compliance (use the OSI Certification Mark)
2. do the right thing by the community

Well, someone official will have to comment on the threshold issue. However, it (naively) looks as if the [including Licensor] clause is intended as a clarification, rather than an substantive change. Is that correct?


If that's the case, perhaps you can ask your lawyers whether you can just post a clarification of your intent alongside the license, rather than modifying the actual license. That would perhaps allow you to use the RPL as is. My recollection from this list is that simply changing names of the 'templated' form of the license doesn't affect OSD compliance. However, in some cases you may need to check with the original author of the license to get permission, since not all open source licenses are -themselves- open source.

-- Ernie P.
IANAL, TINLA, etc.


Regards, Paul

-----------------------------

Do you want your new license posted on our website, and the ability to
advertise OSD compliance? Are you participating in contractual
agreements that require OSD compliance?  Do you want the original RPL
authors to adopt your changes?  Or do you just want the warm fuzzy
feeling that you're doing the right thing by the community?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Prabhakar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:01 PM
To: Fearn, Paul A./Urology
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Use Reciprocal Public License or new license


Hi Paul,


On Mar 19, 2004, at 7:29 AM, Fearn, Paul A./Urology wrote:

After reviewing the existing approved licenses, our
team thought the Reciprocal Public License 1.1 meets
our needs, however our industrial affairs team wanted
to make some small changes.

Could you let me know if these 4 changes are reasonable,
or if we need to go through the new license approval process?

Well, I think that's two different questions.


The changes certainly seem reasonable, and making it more
explicit/symmetric by saying "including Licensor" shouldn't hurt OSD
compliance.

However, I don't know the threshold for when the OSD board needs to
make an affirmative statement.  I suppose it depends on what you're
looking for.

Do you want your new license posted on our website, and the ability to
advertise OSD compliance? Are you participating in contractual
agreements that require OSD compliance?  Do you want the original RPL
authors to adopt your changes?  Or do you just want the warm fuzzy
feeling that you're doing the right thing by the community?

-- Ernie P.
IANAL, TINLA, etc.



Thanks, Paul Fearn ------------------------------------

Reciprocal Public License
Version 1.1, November 1, 2002

-------------------------------------
1. Does the copyright statement at top of license need to stay as

"Copyright (C) 2001-2002
Technical Pursuit Inc.,
All Rights Reserved."

or should it be changed to this?

"Copyright (C) 2004
Caisis Team, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center,
All Rights Reserved."

------------------------------------

2. In Preamble paragraph 2, our industrial affairs team wanted to add
the "including Licensor" phrase after "third parties"? Would this
require creating a new license?

"This License is based on the concept of reciprocity. In exchange for
being granted certain rights under the terms of this License to
Licensor's Software, whose Source Code You have access to, You are
required to reciprocate by providing equal access and rights to all
third parties [including Licensor] to the Source Code of any
Modifications, Derivative Works, and Required Components for execution

of same (collectively defined as Extensions) that You Deploy by
Deploying Your Extensions under the terms of this License. In this
fashion the available Source Code related to the original Licensed
Software is enlarged for the benefit of everyone.

--------------------------------------

3. In Preamble item c from this section
"Under the terms of this License You may:," the group also wanted to
add the "including Licensor" phrase.

"c. Create Extensions to the Licensed Software consistent with the
rights granted by this License, provided that You make the Source Code

to any Extensions You Deploy available to all third parties [including

Licensor], under the terms of this License, document Your
Modifications clearly, and title all Extensions distinctly from the
Licensed Software."

--------------------------------------
4. Are these changes to Exhibit A correct?

Copyright (C) 1999-2004 P.Alli, J.Fajardo, P.Fearn, D.Kuo, K.Regan,

F.Sculli ("Caisis Team"), Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, All

Rights Reserved.

Unless explicitly acquired and licensed from Licensor under the MSKCC
Software Transer Agreement("STA"), the contents of this file are
subject to  the Reciprocal Public License ("RPL") Version 1.1, or
subsequent versions as allowed by the RPL, and You may not copy or use

this file in
either  source code or executable form, except in compliance with the
terms and conditions of the RPL.

You may obtain a copy of both the STA and the RPL (the "Licenses") at
http://www.cancerdb.org.


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