On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 10:14 AM Bruce Perens via License-discuss <license-discuss@lists.opensource.org <mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org>> wrote:
It is unfortunate that Japan made the choice that it did, because it makes Open Source software fair game for those who would profit from the work of our developers without attribution or remuneration and entirely outside of their license terms. You should realize that you're implicitly arguing for an extension of copyright at the expense of freedom of research, open knowledge and open science, before Open Source. I'm no fan of megacorporations and I'm not interested in giving them more powers: But you need to realize that the mega corps already have swallowed your code and writings and pictures and use patters, graph of friends, etc, through perfectly legal means, like the GitHub terms of service. And they'll continue to do so with bilateral deals (Reddit, Stackoverflow, etc.) Your argument is going to deprive open research groups like Eleuther AI, LLM360, LAION and future ones of an opportunity to compete with the mega corps, imposing restrictions to text and data mining that will limit only the **real** Open Source AI. I think that Japan is on a better path, although incomplete: Maybe a better balance with open science and society would be that text and data mining be made unrestricted **provided that** the results of training (the model parameters, weights and biases) are also made publicly available. That'd probably be a better tradeoff. In any case, this is a very complex debate. Creative Commons started exploring it https://creativecommons.org/2023/10/07/making-ai-work-for-creators-and-the-commons/ and Open Future published a very interesting primer on the issue that I highly recommend reading https://openfuture.eu/publication/towards-a-books-data-commons-for-ai-training/, it's a good introduction to the trade offs. /stef _______________________________________________ The opinions expressed in this email are those of the sender and not necessarily those of the Open Source Initiative. Official statements by the Open Source Initiative will be sent from an opensource.org email address. License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@lists.opensource.org http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org
