My interpretation is that OSD #3, in the words after the comma, does permit
immutable terms. Attribution is usually a statement of copyright ownership
and qualifies as a term. Rants do not.


On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 8:44 PM Thorsten Glaser <t...@mirbsd.de> wrote:

> Pamela Chestek dixit:
>
> > What about "this permission notice shall be included in all copies or
> > substantial portions of the Software"?
>
> That’s the licence text itself.
>
> > What about "If the Work includes
> > a 'NOTICE' text file as part of its distribution, then any Derivative
> > Works that You distribute must include a readable copy of the
> > attribution notices contained within such NOTICE file ..." Don't those
> > prohibit removal of the license text and any NOTICE file? The first is
> > MIT and the second is Apache, both unequivocally open source licenses.
>
> I don’t consider the Apache 2.0 licence OSS for this reason, and
> possibly others. This is worse than advertising clauses, in practice.
>
> (And advertising clauses are already bad enough, but at least very
> limited in scope, and avoidable in excerpts, if not full forks.)
>
> I guess it got approval by legacy rules (just like the AGPL, which
> is severely stretching things, and perhaps even the GPL).
>
> bye,
> //mirabilos
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