I understand that. However, it seems to me that requirement would be outside the scope of an open source software license. As has been pointed out, ownership of the data and the requirement to return it or not is already covered by law in many jurisdictions, and in any jurisdictions where it's not, it will be eventually. So isn't this an issue that would be better sorted out through legal systems than through software licensing. This seems like an overreach to me.

Christine Hall
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FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
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On 7/2/19 11:38 AM, VanL wrote:

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:55 PM Thorsten Glaser <t...@mirbsd.de <mailto:t...@mirbsd.de>> wrote:

    Christine Hall dixit:

     > Open source licenses (again, according to my understanding --
    folks with
     > many years experience at OSI should correct me if I'm wrong) should
     > apply only to the software being licensed, and the data collected
    by or
     > stored within a software application is clearly not part of the
    software
     > itself.


There is an important distinction here: The CAL does not apply to any data stored by the application. I agree that forcing user data to be licensed under a particular license would violate the OSD. However, that is not what the CAL does. *The CAL does not change the license on any user data*. The CAL just makes sure that user data is not withheld from the user.

That is a key (and freedom-preserving) distinction. The CAL is not an "all your data is belong to us" license - it is a "the data that you use to interact with this software cannot be withheld from you" license.

Thanks,
Van



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