On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 1:24 PM Pamela Chestek <pamela.ches...@opensource.org> wrote: > > On 5/25/2019 11:14 AM, Lawrence Rosen wrote: > > As for list moderation, I believe that this and other open source lists go > way too far when they impose strict codes of conduct. I am an even greater > fan of free speech than I am of free software. If you send too many emails, > that is why God created the delete key. If anyone thinks that words like > "absurd" deserve censure, then it is they who need a spine implant. > > Larry, > > Thanks for the kudos, I appreciate it. > > I agree that all opinions should be heard, but I want to clarify that you > can't say them any way you want. I hope that everyone expresses their > opinions with civility and respect, so that those who hold different > viewpoints aren't afraid to state their difference of opinion. > > I've seen a few people who have said, essentially, "it's a little rough and > tumble, so what, deal with it." But we lose voices that way. Some people with > very smart views don't like confrontation, or internalize it as an attack. > But we need to make room for them too. I've never heard of a forum where > people won't participate because it's too polite (but I'd be interested to > hear if there are any). I believe an elbows-out style of engagement is to all > of our detriment. We don't need it; calm, rational argument is far more > persuasive than bluster any day.
I agree that list discussion should be respectful as to be welcoming to many participants, however in my opinion, moderating someone should only be used as a last resort in serious situations, and that it should be transparent. I know of more than one member on another somewhat well-known legal mailing list that avoids speaking out for fear of being moderated. I myself have also been moderated on that list, and I was also moderated for trying to post about being moderated! So someone might be unfairly removed from the list and others aren't even allowed to know about it! Because the moderation process is opaque, and the accused aren't allowed to know about or confront their accusers, so this allows some people to get "easily offended" and create unnecessary drama. It's an entirely shady experience IMO which breeds doubt. If someone wants to make a complaint, it should be public so that they are accountable for it as well, so that it's only used when it's really necessary. Thanks, James _______________________________________________ License-discuss mailing list License-discuss@lists.opensource.org http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org
