Given where we currently are in the Google/Oracle case, I’m curious how you 
define API (or if you define it at all).
Would it require copylefting code that implements an API that is 
non-copyrightable, or implements an API when such implementation would be fair 
use?
Anyway, I’ll be at CopyleftCon so maybe I can just ask these questions after 
your presentation.  Sounds like maybe you’re going to address current state of 
the law and how you think that can allow copyleft to expand.

From: License-discuss [mailto:license-discuss-boun...@lists.opensource.org] On 
Behalf Of Bruce Perens
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 9:52 AM
To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Developing a new open source license

Van,

With all respect and understanding of the motivations of the group behind this, 
I have a really big problem with this part:
Unlike other current open source licenses, the Autonomous Agent License will 
require software that implements a compatible API or publicly performs the API 
to also be open source.
I am the standards chair of the Open Source Initiative. If the provision you 
propose in this license was used by standards associations, they could 
trivially prohibit Open Source implementations of their standard APIs. This is 
obviously something that OSI would have to fight in court.

Thus, it's a really, really bad idea for OSI to stand for such a provision by 
approving a license containing it.

Also, almost trivially compared to the above issue, this obviously violates OSD 
#9.

So, unfortunately I really have to recommend in the strongest way that a 
license incorporating that term not be approved.

     Sorry

     Bruce

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:17 AM VanL 
<van.lindb...@gmail.com<mailto:van.lindb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,

I have been retained to help develop a new, strong copyleft open source license 
for a client, Holo Ltd. We have been going back and forth internally for a 
little while and we will shortly be putting out a draft for public comment. 
After the public comment period, we will be submitting the license to the OSI 
for certification.

I will also be discussing this license in my presentation at CopyleftConf on 
Monday.

In the meantime, some of the underlying reasoning for why we need a different 
open source license is being presented on Holo's blog. The first post is up 
now, and the second will be up in a couple days:

https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/why-we-need-a-new-open-source-license-c8faf8a8dadd

Comments are welcome.

Thanks,
Van
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