* Present + Cloph, Jacobo, Markus, Ptyl, Adam, David, Stephan, Norbert, Miklos, Caolan, Kendy, Eike, Lionel, Robinson, Michael S, Michael M, Andras, Muthu * Completed Action Items: + research / seek a saner access2base solution for master (Stephan) [ should probably do it as a bundled extension. pre-registration in 3.6 times caused the trouble. No pressing arguments against bundled extensions now. ] + look at fillattribute branch wrt. fdo#78908 & fdo#79158 (Miklos) [ merged to master; discussed back-porting to 4.3 ... input appreciated from Michael S. Easiest to revert the first part from 4.3. Prefer to revert half-finished version for 4.3 (Caolan) + have another small fix in-hand, plenty more to come AI: + revert onto the -4-3 branch (Miklos) ] + review crazy SfxItemPool hash speedup patch (Kendy) * Pending Action Items: + ask UX advise wrt. wrench icons (revert or not ?) (Astron) + scripting to generate / list last week's UI changes (Cloph) [ in progress ... ] + blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern) + poke potential Boston Hackfest hosters again (Michael) * GSOC Update (Cedric) AI: ** All mentors, please invite students in good standing to LibOCon! + also remember to register for the conference: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2014/registration/ * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 4.3.0 RC2 status - is out. + 4.3.0 RC3 - final + several patches not integrated & need review. + need help reviewing them + filed for the -4-3 branch, but not automatically on -4-3-0 AI: ** please submit fixes for -4-3-0 as well. + 3x patches pending: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:libreoffice-4-3,n,z + Triple review required for 4.3.0 + Double review for libreoffice-4-3 + 4.2.5 retrospective + no known problems; enabled auto-update without issues. + 4.2.6 RC1 deadline - Monday + Windows 8 / registry key mangling / Photos + broken for Vista and above (Timar) + not a good idea to touch the KindMap at all. + happened last summer. + reported in April; mis-prioritised ? + made it a MAB today. + will 4.2.6 be released before 4.3.0 ? (Michael) + when did the on-line update to recommend 4.2 ? + last week (Cloph) + fix won't mend the broken system (Timar) + can publish a .reg file to mend it. AI: + build a 4.2.5.3 with registry fix (Cloph) + and ask internally for quick test / ship ? + only for Windows (Michael S) + Android / iOS remotes + Late features ? + OpenGL wrapper not finished for Mac (yet) (Markus) + no access to a Mac to write OpenGL bindings for VCL + not a huge fix, needs to be done by someone with access + is remote access good enough ? (Cloph) + unclear (Markus) + need the core OpenGL framework from Apple (Markus) + Announce anyway, and implement for Mac later + people are encouraged to contribute on Mac (Miklos) + Android only remote eg. (Kendy) + 2 patches removing dialogs and strings to fix bugs (Markus) + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=77cec206e3c49490e6e380c52cb6d45277a03f65 + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/chart2?id=c97424f82a8d9d50d98e868cf0c1c2731ee15e74 + disabling the GL3DChart in the chart wizard + workaround for new strings. AI: + submit for patch review (Markus) * More Mac Hardware (Michael) + sad to see OpenGL support not done - lack of macs. + approved $1k to buy Markus a Mac Mini (Norbert, Michael, Adam, Caolan) * Crashtest update (Markus) + machine rebooting itself at random times midway through... (Markus) + on a TDF server, running perf VM & crash testing + other VMs run fine (Cloph) + no indication on the host side that the VM has problems. + just see in the guest that it has rebooted + last line in the journal, SEGV's in the test & then reboots ... + http://pastie.org/9347335 + is there some physical machine we can run this on ? (Kendy) + problems in the past with machine becoming un-responsive (Markus) + happened for the last 3x test runs ... + can we run it more slowly (Michael) + currently run at ~100% of CPU, but can reduce parallelism (Markus) + did we get anywhere with distributing the work in the TB script (Michael) + no (Norbert) AI: + can we try adding per-process resource limits (Markus) + 4.2 results are much worse than 4.3 results; pwrt. validation. * Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy) + waiting until ~September AI: + invite Umesh Kadam to next ESC call (Michael) * Paris Hackfest summary (Norbert) + nice place, plenty of room, lots of people + thinks 3x days is better (Lionel) + lots of initial compile / bootstrap cost. + arrive with ~never used laptop, takes ages to build + people don't achieve as much as they could. + missed the pre-built Amazon / Virtual-Machine idea (Markus) AI: + setup some VM's that can be created on-demand (Cloph) + experience from hack-fests in India (Muthu) + pre-built LibreOffice in a VM & shared it on an external hard-disk + helped with bootstrap time. + please fill out: + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Paris2014#Achievements * SPAM problems on freedesktop lists (Thorsten) [ punted to next time ]. * 4.3 'under the hood' ideas (Michael) + performance bits / regressions + LibreOfficeKit + dialog conversion + German comments ... + Coverity [ amazing numbers ~0.08 defect density vs. Linux Kernel 0.6 (wow) ] + Clang plugins / re-factoring + Noel working on lots of stuff. + inlining + SvStream binary overloaded operators gone ! + weekly news (?) + regression testing / validation results / trends etc. + need data (?) + pch updates (?) + eg. b312a38797b19e95a08e7a06595cd04236e05f07 + 'make' improvements ? + Visual Studio build file / IDE integration work ? + VCL cleanups (Chris Sherlock) + death of doctok (http://vmiklos.hu/blog/doctok.html) + OpenGL is a run-time, not build-time dependency: + OpenGL transitions on baseline & distribute it * Hackfests (Bjoern) + Boston Hackfest: + July 26-27th + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/US_Summer_Hackfest + Tough to line-up mentoring devs + would appreciate developers via Google Hangout etc. + QA is happy to recruit programmers for our internal projects, but would like to share w/the dev team. + poke potential hosters again (Michael) + (possible) Seattle + Oct 25-27 + Straw poll: Who could make these dates? + prolly better to ping people individually (Michael) + Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern) + Toulouse Hackfest ... + Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th + more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014 * QA (Robinson) + going well. + Unconfirmed count ? + Staying stable at ~970 + Needadvice + ACCESSIBILITY: remove deprecated atk_role_register https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75191 + Extra lines appearing in MSO-generated ODT https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77961 + can clueful people confirm their own bugs as they file. + Bibisected regressions still increasing slowly ... + help wrt. fixing appreciated. * UX Update (Astron) + title resolution ? + team positions in the design team, took discussion to <http://www.mail-archive.com/board-discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg03268.html> * QA stats: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +174 -156 (+18 overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: Jorendc 21 Joel Madero 18 Caolán McNamara 12 Jay Philips 9 Urmas 8 Julien Nabet 7 ign_christian 6 Cor Nouws 6 Maxim Monastirsky 5 Olivier Hallot 5 Michael Stahl 5 Foss 4 * Open 4.3 MAB + 10/32 6/27 5/24 5/22 3/20 5/16 4/12 2/8 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/2 0/1 0/1 31% 22% 20% 22% 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.2 MAB + 76/215 74/212 74/210 71/207 71/205 73/200 64/190 62/184 49/165 35% 34% 35% 34% 34% 36% 33% 33% 29% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 84/280 81/274 79/265 75/259 70/249 59/231 48/215 45/208 46/207 + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 381(+19) bugs open of 2779(+31) total ~Component count net * Writer - 112 (+7) Spreadsheet - 64 (+4) Crashes - 25 (+1) Presentation - 24 (+1) Libreoffice - 24 (+1) UI - 22 (+2) Graphics - 22 (+4) Database - 18 (-1) Borders - 17 (+0) Drawing - 14 (+0) Filters - 12 (+1) Print / PDF - 10 (-1) Chart - 6 (+0) Formula - 5 (+2) Extensions - 5 (+0) Installation - 3 (+0) Linguistic - 3 (+0) framework - 3 (+0) BASIC - 2 (+0) Migration - 1 (+0) sdk - 0 (+0) Impress Remote - 0 (+0) + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED ) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=3Dregression%2C%20&=keywords_type=3Dallwords&resolution=3D---&query_format=3Dadvanced&product==3DLibreOffice&list_id=3D36764
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