Hi all,

Sorry fr being late here...

Michael Stahl wrote (10-01-13 15:10)

My understanding is
a) that its intentional, see
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/ooo-build/2010-February/000540.html
and the commit
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=6e690e0909459d46c53d17e7939891abea11e566

the corresponding issues are an "interesting" read:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=47893 <- patch author
arguing for the change
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=85464 <- a certain Cor
reporting the change as regression :)

Depends on what users expect and what has been communicated about new features ;-)

i definitely think that there should be some button to reset formatting
that leaves character styles intact, and that should be the "most easily
accessible" option.

As mentioned by others: this is how this works.
And is the most used. Often just to control a piece of the documents content (cleaning up rubbish).

but i wouldn't object to a second button to reset  all formatting, including 
styles.

This is a second option, used far less, and should be as easy as Copy > Paste special as Text without formatting.

resetting the character styles should be as easy as setting "Default"
char style on the whole document, so i'm not sure if another option is
worth the additional clutter.

This is a third option...
Selecting a piece of text and hitting Ctrl-Shift-M (extended from Ctrl-M) would be far more easy then F11, using mouse to activate Character styles, Select/apply Default..
(Should be an easy hack, with all old changes available to look at?)

but hyperlinks should not be touched by any "reset formatting" since
they are not formatting, but content entities (the reset feature also
doesn't convert fields to plain text).

also i'm thinking that ruby text should also not be touched by "reset
formatting", and this has not yet been changed (i.e. it is reset
currently); the reset will actually throw away the ruby text.  i'm
already sitting on a patch to remove ruby from the reset list...

I do not disagree on these points.

Cheers,
Cor

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