* Present: + Michael W, Hossein, Olivier, Caolan, Heiko, Jonathan, Neil R, Regina, Xisco, Miklos, Ilmari, Cloph
* Completed Action Items: * Pending Action Items: * Release Engineering update (Cloph) + 25.2.6 was announced after the conference + 25.8.2 rc1: in 1 week + 25.2.7 rc1 in 4 weeks * AI usage policy (Ilmari) + See https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/187603, https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/190691 and https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/190692 + Previously discussed: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Development%2FEasyHacks&diff=792481&oldid=731202, the context was easy hacks, though + Example policy from another project: https://asahilinux.org/docs/project/policies/slop/ (Ilmari) + Outreachy: https://www.outreachy.org/blog/2025-08-14/december-2025-call-for-mentoring-organizations/#ai-policy + in general, not a happy LLM user, but it may be different for the ones who have years of experience (Ilmari) + as a data point, Collabora Online policy is here: (Miklos) + https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online/blob/13d25e93a2f65981b401bb83e8013bb555c23ae7/CONTRIBUTING.md?plain=1#L52-L59 + using the tool should still mean you understand what you do (Hossein) + it's important to verify the output, catch hallucination, etc. + also: good to avoid LLM-generated comments in gerrit + communication should happen between humans + minimum requirement would be: the contributor would always disclose the use of an LLM (Ilmari) + e.g. qt project provides a trained own LLM server (Hossein) + https://www.qt.io/product/ai-assistant + for QML: https://huggingface.co/QtGroup/CodeLlama-7B-QML + could be an option to provide something similar for LO + but then this would increase LLM usage, may be bad + also think we can't prevent people from using it, better to be upfront (Cloph) + stress that: people are still responsible for the code they create + would be common sense, good to spell that out + against an own trained model: you still get non-perfect result, and a lot of work + not sure the qt one is really that specific + kind of agree with Cloph: don't stop it, make it explicit, including the responsibility part (Caolan) + they have to understand what is being submitted + an idea: "create wiki" from code project seen elsewhere + deepwiki: got confused by our build system / java binding (Ilmari) + not a great output + would be good to provide documentation in this area (Hossein) + how to use the tool in a useful way + concerned about students using these LLMs (Jonathan) + not just easy hackers, also avoid it for gsoc projects, too + suggest to warn them: this can result in a failure + outreachy also warns about it (Ilmari) + against "overly rely on it" + addictive nature of LLMs (Hossein) + developers not using these tools responsibly won't have a long career (Jonathan) => common ground + we can't prevent people from using it, but be upfront of the usage + submitter is responsible about the submitted code, still -- need to understand the patch + don't overly rely on it -- not using it at all is still perfectly OK + against using it for easy hacks / mentored gsoc projects + goes against the idea of a learning task + good to have a policy + don't use it in communication / gerrit comments AI: Ilmari to draft a text based on the above * Documentation (Olivier) + was busy with the conference + Helpcontent2: + Updates and fixes (ohallot) + Guides + Draw Guide 25.8 is ready for publication (P. Schofield) + Bugzilla Documentation statistics 213(213) bugs open + Updates: BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months created 4(-2) 19(-1) 38(-3) 217(-5) commented 6(-2) 33(3) 168(5) 684(-19) resolved 2(1) 10(0) 25(-3) 104(-5) + top 10 contributors: Olivier Hallot made 31 changes in 1 month, and 356 changes in 1 year Aron Budea made 11 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 129 changes in 1 year Kaganski, Mike made 9 changes in 1 month, and 69 changes in 1 year Bogdan B made 7 changes in 1 month, and 248 changes in 1 year Eric Kvaalen made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year m.a.riosv made 4 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year Vernon, Stuart Foote made 4 changes in 1 month, and 63 changes in 1 year Dr Beco made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year Henschel, Regina made 2 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 223(223) (topicUI) bugs open, 12(12) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months added 4(3) 9(4) 10(4) 15(3) commented 34(7) 95(21) 146(18) 789(-8) removed 0(0) 2(0) 2(0) 7(-1) resolved 1(-2) 7(1) 17(-2) 129(-3) + top 10 contributors: Heiko Tietze made 61 changes in 1 month, and 380 changes in 1 year Vernon, Stuart Foote made 31 changes in 1 month, and 262 changes in 1 year Telesto made 16 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year Eyal Rozenberg made 12 changes in 1 month, and 135 changes in 1 year Justin Luth made 10 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 9 changes in 1 month, and 160 changes in 1 year m.a.riosv made 8 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year Bogdan B made 7 changes in 1 month, and 60 changes in 1 year Dieter made 7 changes in 1 month, and 40 changes in 1 year Manas Todi made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year -> + [Bug 168272] Simplify Page Break and Page Style Handling in Writer + [Bug 168291] Assign ALT+LeftArrow and ALT+RightArrow for back and forward navigation, respectively -> + [Bug 168292] Bullet Library has repetitive content + [Bug 168203] Vertical tabs: inconsistent look. Label next to icon; label below icon * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 136(+0) import failure, 28(+0) export failures - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting + 14 coverity issues + 7 ossfuzz issues - 4 timeouts, 2 OOM, 1 int overflow - 1 OOM and int overflow fixes in gerrit * Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco) + 25.8.0.2 279(+14) + 25.8.0.3 118(+13) + 25.8.0.4 17156(+2939) + 25.8.1.1 3173(+2424) + Fixed in LibreOffice 25.8.1.1 - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/StyleItemController::DrawEntry(OutputDevice%20&,SfxStyleSheetBase%20*) - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20void%20lcl_SwFormatToFlatItemSet(const%20class%20SwFormat%20*,%20class%20std::optional%3CSfxItemSet%3E%20&%20const) - Thanks to Noel - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/chart::ControllerCommandDispatch::updateCommandAvailability() - Thanks to Mike Kaganski + Fixed in LibreOffice 25.8.2 - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/ModelData_Impl::OutputFileDialog(short,comphelper::SequenceAsHashMap%20const%20&,bool,rtl::OUString%20&,bool,rtl::OUString%20&,short,com::sun::star::uno::Sequence%3Crtl::OUString%3E%20const%20&,SignatureState) - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/svx::sidebar::InspectorTextPanel::InspectorTextPanel(weld::Widget%20*,SfxBindings%20*) + New in LibreOffice 25.8 - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/sd::View::InsertData(TransferableDataHelper%20const%20&,Point%20const%20&,signed%20char%20&,bool,SotClipboardFormatId,unsigned%20short,o3tl::strong_int%3Cshort,SdrLayerIDTag%3E) * Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein) + New blog post on dev blog Using C++ STL functions instead of loops – EasyHack https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2025/09/11/using-cpp-stl-functions-instead-of-loops-easyhack/ + Worked on fixing .NET binding issues committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months open 62(-5) 124(6) 124(4) 124(4) reviews 276(-30) 1268(-132) 3024(18) 11122(-188) merged 139(-112) 1149(-283) 3741(-38) 12933(-142) abandoned 5(-17) 62(-11) 182(-3) 644(0) own commits 102(-77) 741(-178) 2577(-25) 9751(-88) review commits 28(-2) 156(-28) 453(-3) 2481(-38) contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months open 51(-22) 201(-27) 203(-28) 203(-28) reviews 504(-270) 2986(-546) 8660(-76) 31802(-356) merged 30(5) 121(-5) 265(3) 2252(-31) abandoned 43(23) 95(34) 666(38) 1622(40) own commits 18(5) 74(1) 192(8) 1072(-2) review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) + easyHack statistics: needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 343(343) total 408(408) assigned 44(44) open 323(323) + top 10 contributors: Simon Chenery made 8 patches in 1 month, and 78 patches in 1 year Pierre Vacher made 5 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year Maya Stephens made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year Neil Roberts made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year Celia Palacios Gómez Tagle made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year Theppitak Karoonboonyanan made 2 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year Bogdan B made 2 patches in 1 month, and 239 patches in 1 year Amin Irgaliev made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year Adam Seskunas made 2 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year Darshan Upadhyay made 2 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year + top 10 reviewers: Xisco Fauli made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 778 in 1 year Vajna, Miklos made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 1282 in 1 year Caolán McNamara made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 1064 in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 728 in 1 year Hossein made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 286 in 1 year Michael Stahl made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 146 in 1 year Weghorn, Michael made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 556 in 1 year Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 538 in 1 year Grandin, Noel made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 490 in 1 year Christian Lohmaier made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 784 in 1 year + Patches automatically abandoned: tdf#132007: Refine password prompt dialog UI and text ( Devansh Varshney ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/163924 tdf#114441 sal_uLong to better integer type ( Rafał Dobrakowski ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166007 Fix Clang 18 compilerplugins compile error ( Shi Qiu ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183995 ONLINE: Make math related dialogs async ( Gülşah Köse ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184765 [wip] investigations into extension manager theme reset impl ( Sahil Gautam ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/187555 + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report: Vaibhav Singh jaap a Maya Stephens (Collabora) Vlad Rakhmanin * GSoC (Ilmari) + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline + Finished: table styles dialog and slideshow primitives + have the final project reports now: + https://karthikreddy.org/libreoffice/gsoc-final-report + https://shardulvikrm.blogspot.com/2025/08/project-report-reworking-impress.html + 5 more are still running + 2 are ending 22 Sept * Outreachy (Ilmari) + We applied, but only with 2 intern positions, so we have room for 2 more projects + still looking for mentors, contact Ilmari if interested * Commit Access * Developer Certification (Stephan/László) + resting since: 15 weeks (limit: 20 weeks) * Jenkins / CI update (Cloph) gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 110 ok: 108 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.91% mean_ok: 14 ( 22) median_ok: 13 ( 16) gerrit_android_arm jobs: 110 ok: 106 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.82% mean_ok: 15 ( 22) median_ok: 13 ( 15) gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 110 ok: 108 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.91% mean_ok: 15 ( 21) median_ok: 11 ( 14) gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 109 ok: 105 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.83% mean_ok: 12 ( 19) median_ok: 11 ( 13) gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 226 ok: 174 ko: 44 fail ratio: 19.47% mean_ok: 43 ( 49) median_ok: 38 ( 44) gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 269 ok: 213 ko: 33 fail ratio: 12.27% mean_ok: 24 ( 29) median_ok: 20 ( 22) gerrit_mac jobs: 258 ok: 187 ko: 64 fail ratio: 24.81% mean_ok: 57 ( 65) median_ok: 48 ( 54) gerrit_windows jobs: 240 ok: 198 ko: 37 fail ratio: 15.42% mean_ok: 37 ( 38) median_ok: 36 ( 36) gerrit_master_ml jobs: 298 ok: 158 ko: 111 fail ratio: 37.25% mean_ok: 90 ( 90) median_ok: 74 ( 75) gerrit_master jobs: 20 ok: 15 ko: 3 fail ratio: 15.00% mean_ok: 75 ( 75) median_ok: 71 ( 71) gerrit_master_seq jobs: 278 ok: 143 ko: 108 fail ratio: 38.85% mean_ok: 91 ( 91) median_ok: 74 ( 74) + test that failed more than twice in last seven days 3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport16 gerrit_mac 4 CppunitTest_sc_sheetview_test gerrit_linux_gcc_release 4 CppunitTest_sd_svg_export_tests gerrit_linux_gcc_release 5 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows 6 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil + silent week, nothing too special + failures are mostly from to-be-submitted changes + New Windows baseline + sorted out the licenses + working on setting up builders + probably next week deploy the other machines, at the end to have 4 such builders * What’s cooking (Miklos) + A11y update (Michael W) + tdf#168278 "Calc cells report 0 accessible text selections via ATK/AT-SPI" + input method handling in qt VCL plugins ported away from using a11y API (context: tdf#152519 "SurroundingText is not working in kf5 VCL") + Qt: made accessible relation for QLabel buddy/mnemonic widgets work for non- siblings: https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/672850 + a11y code refactoring + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan) + ODF-TC (Olivier + Regina) Essentials from TC conference call 2025-09-08 (Regina): - Delay in ODF 1.4 becoming a standard, because the TC has received a comment. - Discussed OFFICE-4173 "Style for format changes", corresponding to attribute loext:style-name in element <text:format-change>. State changed from NEW to OPEN, but needs further work. - Discussed OFFICE-4174 "Hierarchical tracked changes". Need list of actually implemented combinations. - written the submision for the Fourier function (Olivier) - time to send it to JIRA? - no urgency (Regina) - but good to do it, so it's not forgotten * QA update (Xisco) + UNCONFIRMED: 1989 (+12) + enhancements: 521 (+2) + needsUXEval: 7 (+2) + haveBackTrace: 14 (-3) + needsDevAdvice: 49 (+0) + documentation: 1 (+0) + android: 0 (+0) + iOS: 0 (+0) + Online: 6 (+0) + Most pressing bugs: New: None + New high severity bugs of the week: + Landscape page in Calc is printed as portrait random + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164088 + bisected to Tibor * QA stats + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +77 +57 (-78) overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: Justin L 13 BogdanB 7 nobu 5 Regina Henschel 4 Heiko Tietze 3 Noel Grandin 3 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 3 Timur 3 V Stuart Foote 3 Buovjaga 2 + top 10 bugs reporters: Regina Henschel 4 Heiko Tietze 3 Arnab C 2 NarayanAras 2 lordmethenor 2 nobu 2 Aron Budea 1 Jim Avera 1 Marco A.G.Pinto 1 Oliver Boorman 1 + top 10 bugs fixers: Justin Luth 6 Grandin, Noel 3 Heiko Tietze 3 Caolán McNamara 2 Németh, László 2 Patrick Luby 2 Timur Gadzo 2 Vajna, Miklos 2 *UNKNOWN* 1 Andreas Heinisch 1 + top 10 bugs confirmers: m.a.riosv 8 Henschel, Regina 5 Vajna, Miklos 5 Robert Großkopf 3 Dieter 2 Faure, Jean-Baptiste 2 Heiko Tietze 2 Mateusz Wlazłowski 2 Raal 2 yosi3260+li...@gmail.com 2 * Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected' + more accurate - down to a single commit. + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy + done by: vijaya chandra 4 Ilmari Lauhakangas 3 Telesto 2 Xisco Fauli 2 jussuom 1 Mateusz Wlazłowski 1 Raal 1 Timur Gadzo 1 * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 1281(-1) bugs open of 14294(+13) total 21(+0) high prio. done by: nobu 3 Bogdan B 2 Ilmari Lauhakangas 2 Heiko Tietze 1 vijaya chandra 1 Mateusz Wlazłowski 1 Raal 1 Robert Großkopf 1 Xisco Fauli 1 * ~Component count net * high severity regressions + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E Writer - 10(+0) Calc - 5(+0) LibreOffice - 3(+0) Impress - 1(+0) UI - 1(+0) filters and storage - 1(+0) by OS: All - 15(+0) Linux - 5(+0) Mac OS X - 0(+0) Windows - 0(+0) * ~Component count net * all regressions + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i Writer: other - 431(-1) Calc - 244(+1) Impress - 128(-1) LibreOffice - 61(+0) Draw - 49(-1) Writer: docx filter - 44(+0) Crashes - 42(-2) UI - 42(+1) Borders - 37(-1) Base - 34(+0) Writer: perf - 31(+0) Writer: other filter - 30(+0) filters and storage - 29(+0) Printing and PDF export - 24(+0) Chart - 23(-1) RTL - 21(+0) Writer: doc filter - 19(+0) BASIC - 18(+0) graphics stack - 15(+1) Formula Editor - 8(+0) framework - 3(+0) Extensions - 2(+0) Linguistic - 2(+0) sdk - 2(+0) Installation - 1(+0)
