Hi, I apologize for the delay in replying. Thank you so much for this. This opens up some horizons for our project. This is a good example of how group work can improve things. To do what Jan-Marek's nearly 10 python lines do, we were making some changes to the LibreOffice core and waiting a few hours for a build. I mean, "almost group work", because Jan-Marek has done most of it, giving us a code example and pointing a link to a documentation.
I'm already doing some experiments using the documentation. Thank you all. Is there a possibility of TDF through developers/mentors to help us with the creation of this application? This application would be a screen reader for sign language optimized for the use of office applications (LibreOffice, mainly). Is there a possibility of this being a new TDF project or a project in partnership with TDF? Thank you very much for your attention and again, I apologize for the delay in replying Best regards, Miguel. Em qua., 18 de mar. de 2020 às 06:18, Ilmari Lauhakangas < ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> escreveu: > I will include a message from Jan-Marek, who is unable to use mail > currently. He wants to point out that tooltips can be accessed via > accessibility APIs at least on Linux. > > Ilmari > > Jan-Marek says: > > It took me about 15m to write a python at spi program, which will react > to tooltip events on Linux: > > #!/usr/bin/python3 > > import pyatspi > > def f(e): > if not e.source or e.source.getRole() != pyatspi.ROLE_TOOL_TIP: > return > # e.detail1 = 1: show / = 0: hide > print(e) > > pyatspi.Registry.registerEventListener(f, "object:state-changed:visible") > pyatspi.Registry.start() > > Just install the python3-pyatspi package of your preferred distro and > start the little program. > > This is obviously just a very minimal POC, but it can be easily extended > to just filter events from LO. > > If I read > https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/Documentation/GNOME2/AtkGuide/MSAA > correctly, MSAA also has show events for tooltips. > > Miguel Teixeira kirjoitti 17.3.2020 klo 18.26: > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > > De: *Miguel Teixeira* <miguel.teixe...@poli.ufrj.br > > <mailto:miguel.teixe...@poli.ufrj.br>> > > Date: seg., 16 de mar. de 2020 às 10:59 > > Subject: Re: LIBRASOffice - Vídeo - Solve MIT 2019 > > To: Olivier Hallot <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org > > <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>> > > Cc: Ilmari Lauhakangas <ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org > > <mailto:ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org>>, Daniel Silva > > <daniel.l...@poli.ufrj.br <mailto:daniel.l...@poli.ufrj.br>>, Lidiana > > Souza dos Anjos <lidianaso...@poli.ufrj.br > > <mailto:lidianaso...@poli.ufrj.br>>, Fernando Gonçalves Severo > > <sev...@cos.ufrj.br <mailto:sev...@cos.ufrj.br>>, Henrique Luiz > > Cukierman <hcuk...@cos.ufrj.br <mailto:hcuk...@cos.ufrj.br>>, Pedro > > Braga <pedrohcbu...@gmail.com <mailto:pedrohcbu...@gmail.com>> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > * > > * > > > > I apologize forthe delay in answering. > > > > Current assistive technologies favor better accessibility for the blind > > people. There is no such thing as a "Braille language" or "Braille > > culture". A blind person does not need to communicate through a > > "different language" or adapt to a new language that depends directly on > > a sense that he does not have and a diferent culture. Before they learn > > to write, children, in general, learn to speak. For example, a blind > > person can learn to speak a language just as children learn by listening > > to other people speak. A deaf person often learns to communicate through > > a language only after older ages (for example, many deaf people in > > Brazil only learn LIBRAS after the age of 18). In the case of deaf > > people, there is a different language and culture. A simple literal > > translation of textual elements of the interface may not be such an > > interesting idea (but in some cases it can be useful). Here, there is an > > issue where, a simple adaptation of something that already exists (like > > the current accessibility APIs) can serve as a "quick fix", but that > > does not mean that it is the best option. > > > > * > > * > > > > I attached a PDF file talking a little more about this subject. > > > > * > > * > > > > * > > * > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Miguel. > > > > > > Em sex., 13 de mar. de 2020 às 12:54, Olivier Hallot > > <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>> > > > escreveu: > > > > Olá Miguel > > > > It is fundamental to clarify why the current assistive technologies > are > > unable to address the issue of the deafs. It has been asked in IRC > and > > the response has not been seen. The project will be analyzed by > > knowledgeable people. > > > > Ilmari is in copy, please switch to English and keep Ilmarin the > loop. > > Professor Henrique Cukierman should also be in the loop. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Olivier > > > > Em 12/03/2020 16:27, Miguel Teixeira escreveu: > > > Olá Olivier, > > > > > > Estamos animados com a sua mensagem. Vamos preparar um dossier > para > > > financiamento do LIBRASOffice assim como fizemos para o MIT. > > > Vamos aproveitar boa parte do que fizemos para o MIT, mas mesmo > > assim, > > > não conseguiremos te entregar até o dia de hoje ou amanhã. Dou > > previsão > > > para entrega do dossier até a próxima quarta-feira, mas pode ser > > que já > > > esteja pronto, por exemplo, no próximo domingo. Existe algum > > problema em > > > entregarmos na próxima quarta-feira? > > > > > > Cordialmente, > > > Miguel Teixeira. > > > > > > > > > Em qui., 12 de mar. de 2020 às 07:00, Olivier Hallot > > > <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org > > <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> > > <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org > > <mailto:olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>>> > > > escreveu: > > > > > > Olá Miguel > > > > > > Vocês tem condições de preparar um dossier para financiamento > do > > > LibrasOffice, assim como fizeram para o MIT? Trocaria MIT > > por TDF (The > > > Document Foundation). > > > > > > Creio que pode haver um caminho de financiamento a ser > > explorado, e a > > > experiencia do MIT pode ajudar a convencer. > > > > > > Será importante ter um cronograma de entregas, e programa de > > desembolso, > > > tamanho de equipe, bolsas e tudo mais. Vejo um horizonte de > > seis meses > > > de atividades para duas pessoas. > > > > > > OK? > > > Olivier > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em 11/03/2020 20:43, Miguel Teixeira escreveu: > > > > Olá Olivier, > > > > > > > > Segue o link do vídeo usado no Solve MIT - 2019 > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVAWjRV0dTw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Olivier Hallot > > > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > > > Comunidade LibreOffice > > > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > > > http://tdf.io/joinus > > > > > > > -- > > Olivier Hallot > > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > > Comunidade LibreOffice > > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > > http://tdf.io/joinus > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LibreOffice mailing list > > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice > > > _______________________________________________ > LibreOffice mailing list > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice >
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