Hi Mike >1. Creating a redirect at TDF side imposes additional load to our server >infrastructure; >2. Users will depend on reliability of TDF servers wrt this (in terms of their >state, correctness of the link, and also possible man-in-the-middle problems >with modified links pointing to malware) - note that LO downloads themselves >are served from multiple mirrors, but this kind of redirection can't work >using mirrors
I have mean directly from Microsoft not from TDF. >3. Users would need internet connection at time of setup (which might not be >there: many download the installer, to bring it somewhere where there's no >Internet connection I think that is not a big problem, the most have an Internet connection (and many App can't install without connection), but when not the installer gives a hint (only when needed), and the user should install the redist. But any way, this is only a suggestion, and has also weakness (e. g. MS changes the link), the other case we have always up to date the vc_redist.exe. Best Juergen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: LibreOffice [mailto:libreoffice-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Kaganski Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 10:07 An: Juergen Funk Mailinglist <juergen.funk...@cib.de>; libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org Betreff: Re: AW: tdf#108580: integrate vc_redist.exe into Windows installer Hi Juergen, thanks for feedback! On 12/14/2017 11:04 AM, Juergen Funk Mailinglist wrote: > this is a good idea, but I think the better way is, when the system need the > vc_redist then we "download" the new vc_redist.exe from MS and starting. > This has 2 advantage > - the LO msi would not be bigger > - we install always the up to date redist-dll's Well, the main problem here is that there's no "latest vc_redist.exe" static link on MS site. So, this approach is simply impossible without us creating a redirect on our side. And this would create additional problems: 1. Creating a redirect at TDF side imposes additional load to our server infrastructure; 2. Users will depend on reliability of TDF servers wrt this (in terms of their state, correctness of the link, and also possible man-in-the-middle problems with modified links pointing to malware) - note that LO downloads themselves are served from multiple mirrors, but this kind of redirection can't work using mirrors; 3. Users would need internet connection at time of setup (which might not be there: many download the installer, to bring it somewhere where there's no Internet connection). So this is just not an option - at least, this is much worse than suggestion to simply telling people to manually download and install the redistributable themselves, put on the download page. > In the current way it is possible you install older one of the dll's, and > after the LO installation it pop up the Windows-Update, that I think is a > little bit strange. No; this is absolutely normal - most softwares out there behave this way, so not different from usual. Of course, *if* your suggestion was possible to be implemented in a reasonable way, it would be best - but the downsides outweigh the benefit. -- Best regards, Mike Kaganski _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
