* Present:
+ Rainer, Stephan, Eike, Fridrich, Norbert, Kendy, Mitch,
Bjoern, Michael, Tor, Lionel, Caolan, Cedric, Thorsten,
Andras, Kohei
* Completed Action Items
+ python/wizards merge for 3.5 & strip old versions (Michael)
+ send Monty mail about other options (Michael)
+ hunt systemic per-tinderbox errors (Rainer)
+ abandoned for now
+ file soffice paramater issues as most-annoying (Lionel)
+ look at dev-builds with desktop integration for linux (Petr)
+ remove --enable-release-builds until RCs (packagers)
+ back-port Java 7 to 3.4 if no show-stopping regressions in B0
(Stephan)
AA: + enable Java 7 in 3.4.5 & check RC1 feedback (Stephan)
* Pending Action Items
+ [in progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy /
Admins)
+ [in progress] come up with a list of QA heros for next meeting
(Rainer)
+ need to download & install libpostgresql for Mac/Windows (Michael)
+ add tinderbox name to build-id (Norbert)
AA: + review pending labels patch if possible (Bjoern)
* Action Items
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.5.0 Beta 1 feature freeze hit, branched etc.
+ builds originally quite broken, but much better now
+ may be delayed until late today / tomorrow
+ smaller smoke-testing window than hoped for
+ delayed by accidental re-base of -3-5 on master
+ tag monday / slip slightly.
+ move 3.4.5 RC1 freeze out to mid-week
+ individuals need to carefully cherry-pick their fixes to the branch
+ please test bigger fixes on master and only cherry-pick when
the tinderboxes like you ...
AA: + cleanup old test server directories (Thorsten)
* verbose builds left and right
+ tinderboxes switched to not produce huge amounts of log output
+ default is not churn during build
* gtk3 backend
+ change the configure to default to 'on' for this
+ not feasible to build on our legacy machines
AA: + disable gtk3 except in experimental mode (Michael)
* lightproof grammar checker (Andras)
+ python extension, long history, around for years
+ lightweight, no large dependencies
+ Laszlo integrated it with normal dictionary extensions
+ can include it into the dictionaries/ module
+ committed to master, seems to work well:
+ windows + Linux, English + Hungarian
+ where is the up-stream ?
+ no public repo / just tar-balls
+ Laszlo would like a repo on freedesktop
AA: + create 'lightproof' git repo on freedesktop for Laszlo
(Michael)
+ horror grammer checker leaks fixable & findable with internal python
+ fewer languages supported, but tool for migrating rules in progress
+ currently we bundle nothing => no functional regression
+ can be used in parallel with LanguageTool
+ lightproof - conservative checker - blogk post to follow.
AA: + we will cherry-pick to Beta2 (Caolan, Andras) (Petr)
* default display issue (Michael / Caolan)
+ quite some research done, but not fixed ...
+ 'Primary' on Windows == LCD display, ditto on Linux
AA: + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerScreen (Michael)
* QA update (Rainer)
+ Bugzilla assistant
+ some problems with it; around 20 bugs
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc=BUGZILLAASSISTANT&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&component=WWW&product=LibreOffice
+ need to think what to do with it
+ requires manual updating per version
AA: + forward access details to Thorsten (Rainer)
AA: + get Rainer setup with git commit access (Michael)
AA: + add fixing it to top #10 easy tasks page (Petr)
+ 3.5 release
+ concerns around:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36677
+ was always wrong in the past - but afflicts Windows 7
+ luckily shipping the fix in 3.4.5 helps this
+ Bug hunting session (Cor) - regrets.
+
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5#Bug-hunting_session
* Remote login for testing branches / new work on (Lionel)
+ we could use Voruppe to allow people to test stuff (Fridrich)
+ Norbert happy to create one-shot tinderboxes to
target feature branch
* debugging re-builds (Cedric)
+ re-building whole tree with dbgutil is a nightmare
+ having binary incompatible tree is silly (Bjoern)
+ missing dump-as-xml code; switched to dbgutil
+ problems with #if debug-level in a header (MichaelS)
+ breaks ODR potentially
+ no problem with debug compiled in, in product release
AA: + add this layout feature into a product build (Cedric)
+ make it dependent on a getenv() to avoid callcatcher
* postgresql fun. non-internal
+ postgresql have a strict API stability (Norbert)
+ concerns of control & buildability are overboard (Lionel)
+ Windows - run-time DLL dependency a pain (Lionel)
+ ship DLL ourselves ?
+ download the binary and ship it ?
+ horrendous shipping other peoples binaries (Michael)
+ a huge mess on Windows finding dlls (Fridrich)
+ MySQL connector a huge mess (Fridrich)
+ ship the binary etc.
+ building vs. an internal libpostgresql (Lionel)
+ client library code is:
+ around 25 files + a few headers
+ can knock up a gnumake makefile in a module
as a static library.
+ Decision: build a minimal / internal postgresql ...
+ do the work on master & perhaps backport
+ binary extensions for 3.5
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