On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Francois Tigeot <ftig...@wolfpond.org> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 05:21:39PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 04:34:23PM +0100, Lubos Lunak wrote: >> > On Wednesday 30 of November 2011, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: >> > > >> > > New commits: >> > > commit 1f538764acdd67c3f294cd03da006ace27f736ef >> > > Author: Bjoern Michaelsen <bjoern.michael...@canonical.com> >> > > Date: Wed Nov 30 14:02:08 2011 +0100 >> > > >> > > make build.pl verbose on non-silent builds >> >> > Moreover I question the usefullness of having verbose build by default. >> >> Please do not go down that road. The default behaviour is the one of GNU >> make. >> Its well documented and if you want make to default to make -s you are free >> to >> make yourself an alias in bash for it. In addition verbose builds are a good >> default esp. for builders/bots and newcomers. > > My builds kept failing today; without this commit I wouldn't have been able > to find the exact sequence of commands leading to the crashs and the root bug > would not have been fixed. >
But that also mean 5 time bigger compressed log file to upload in case of tinderbox failure... for me, with 2 box doing 30-40 build a piece, each a day, that means close to an extra 100 MB of upload on a bad day... anyway... I fixed tinbuild2 to do make -s by default... will push that soon > None of the verbose build options documented in the wiki were working. Having > a clean non-verbose terminal output may be a pretty thing but if it leads to > lost hours of work, it's definitively _not_ an improvement. It is not just a 'pretty' thing. it is also a chance to see warnings... with a clean output they stick out clearly... otherwise you'd be hard press to see them in that soup of 'command lines' echo. It is also a performance issue. first all that scrolling in a terminal consume quite a bit of CPU... when you have a nicely tune build that is CPU-bound, any cpu overhead translate in elapse. Linux full 'verbose build' (all tests after a make clean and a 100% ccache hot) real 15m40.877s user 37m0.570s sys 10m9.090s Linux full make -s real 14m48.117 user 37m8.437 sys 9m52.095 norbert _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
