* Present: Norbert, Sophie, Armin, Stephan, Robinson, Christian, Thorsten,
Jan-Marek, Bjoern, Eike, Miklos, Lionel, Olivier, Heiko
* Completed Action Items:
+ fixed with 62c4a8aacf76771e97a8da35096e6ad69a11979a - was: explain the
reason why "make debug=T" doesnt build with symbols anymore
/ bring it to some ESC when Stephan is here (Stephan / Bjoern)
+ for breeze etc. originals, find out who needs commit access & enable them
to do it (Heiko)
+ Breeze & co. originals in git should be done
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/kendy-collabora-com-Minutes-of-ESC-call-2016-08-11-tp4190974p4190988.html
+ approve https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27028/ and
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27857/ (Cloph)
* Pending Action Items:
+ poke at MSDN licenses (Michael)
[ waiting for a response on new process, on holiday ? ]
+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
[ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script
to refine it - will work - needs a bit more python (Norbert) ]
+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
+ still need to get API key, rest is done
+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
+ Program committee to work on the Conf. program (Kendy, Thorsten, Italo,
Marina)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ no release this week, rc1 last week rc2 next week (cloph)
+ all on track (cloph)
+ 5.1 → 5.1.6 rc1 Oct 4th
+ 5.2 → 5.2.1 rc2 next Tue (Aug 23rd)
+ 5.3 → 5.3.0 alpha 1 Oct 18th
+ Android & iOS Remote
* LibreOffice Conference in Brno (Kendy)
+ kendy away, anyone else?
+ shm_get: see ya there
+ erAck: prep slides!
* Membership Committee plug (Michael)
+ Please send nominations and self-nominations via e-mail to
electi...@documentfoundation.org (which reaches the Board of
Directors in private) and also (!) to
board-disc...@documentfoundation.org (which is a public mailing
list). We kindly ask nominees who would like to stand for
elections to provide a statement of up to 75 words on their
candidacy as continuous text (so no bullet lists or multiple
paragraphs). In addition, please also provide your full name,
e-mail address and your corporate affiliation, if any, and
please announce that you will provide information on all future
changes as soon as possible.
+ tooling uses git & is user-friendly for devs.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Help page for doc classification in.
-> vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/swriter/classificationbar.xhp
+ Preparing help page for CMIS setup and usage
-> Found CMIS access very slow in cmis.alfresco.com/cmisatom
-> will install Alfresco community in laptop to study check-in/check-out
real case
+ Writer Guide book under review by Jean Weber
+ Getting Started 5.2 open for update
-> Community slow to jump in (vacations?).
+ Bjoern: blocking on something from dev/infra?
+ infra to put link for Q&A for 5.3, not urgent (askbot or something
else)
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten)
+ Next deadline is August 23rd 19:00 UTC for students to submit their work
+ Mentors then review, final deadline for mentor eval is August 29th
+ reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc.
+ !!! soft pen-down next Monday (15th), on 23rd deliver & package
+ to be frozen and delivered after that
+ important that the students deliver that on time, otherwise they'll
be failed
+ 6 students attending the Conference
+ no news, make students document/blog wildly (Thorsten)
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ from:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/kendy-collabora-com-Minutes-of-ESC-call-2016-08-11-tp4190974p4190988.html
+ ux-advice: keep it, because many bugs are not easy to file against a
certain component
+ tracking of needsux: sure, can do that; but many people may
understand enhancements similar to ux, which needs to get covered (or better we
restrict our trust in the numbers)
+ no semantic difference between "component:LibreOffice
keyword:needsUXeval" and "component:ux-advise" (Bjoern)
+ introduced keyword, to allow component linked (Heiko)
+ component for newcomers (Heiko)
+ personally like to keep both (Heiko)
+ 350 and 150 in each bucket (Bjoern)
+ component:LibreOffice is the catch-all (Bjoern)
+ watch compoment for mailing list? (Heiko)
+ get a email for every bug change and filter (Thorsten)
+ ML create false impression there might be a discussion (Thorsten)
+ actual discussion should happen (Eike)
+ RSS Feed for query:
https://www.bugzilla.org/features/#buglist-formats (Jan-Marek)
AI + move component:ux-advise to component:LibreOffice keyword:UX as
ninja-edit (Robinson)
+ get checkbox for bugzilla (Heiko)
+ we have 500 ux bugs, we dont need to make it much easier right now
(Bjoern)
+ other UX topics: (Heiko)
+ currently on vacation
+ blog post on online media integration
+ simplify the workflow to integrate media (like youtube, image from
repo)
+ looking over replies
+ no good video playback in Impress
+ avideo is on top of everything, so it's hard (alg)
+ Whats the actual issue? fundamental problem? (Thorsten)
+ post was about integration, but replies were about playback brokage
(Heiko)
+ this is supposed to work (Thorsten)
+ maybe look into it from a QA angle? (Bjoern)
+ Overview of playback testing by platform (Robinson)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Media_Support/Summary#Video_Formats
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 2 import failure, 0 export failures, coverity works again, 1680 new
issues! :-)
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next hackfests: nothing confirmed yet.
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Froscon
+ Akademy / FSFE summit - in the week before LibOCon ? (Thorsten)
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1999
+ more suggestions welcome
+ Code for Hamburg (Eike)
+ Friday to Sunday hacking event
+ Koerberstiftung: Digital Empowerment
http://www.kampnagel.de/de/programm/datapolitics/?datum=&id_datum=4756
http://www.koerber-stiftung.de/innovation/im-fokus-digitale-muendigkeit.html
* Mentoring/easyhack update (janI)
+ legend: contributors are not-yet-committers, numbers in () are +/-
compared to last week
+ summary:
16823(0) commits in a year of which 7909(40) were made directly, without
use of gerrit
287(0) people made commits in a year, 30(-22) in a month. 22(5) people
to be emailed
+ gerrit: committer open 63(-12) contributor open 48(5)
updated merged abandoned updated merged abandoned
year: 63(-12) 7362(-24) 584(7) 48(5) 1552(-16) 504(0)
month: 60(-14) 622(-8) 37(4) 48(5) 181(1) 54(2)
week: 35(-6) 122(-14) 12(7) 27(4) 25(-7) 6(-16)
+ easyHacks:
total 249(-4) open 213(-2) assigned 13(-2) needinfo 23(0)
needsDevEval 482(0) of which 0(0) are easyHacks
needsUXEval 163(0) of which 9(0) are easyHacks
missing cleanup due to many comments 202(-4)
+ top 5 contributors (based on merged patches last month):
Zdenek Crhonek got 81 patches merged, and have a total of 174 merged
patches
Stanislav Horáček got 22 patches merged, and have a total of 83 merged
patches
Susobhan Ghosh got 16 patches merged, and have a total of 31 merged
patches
Muhammet Kara got 10 patches merged, and have a total of 55 merged
patches
nadith malinda premaratne got 5 patches merged, and have a total of 8
merged patches
+ new easyHacks:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101442mentor:bjoern.michaelsen
-> "Hyperlink is terribly dated vocabulary"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101549
mentor:philipz85 -> "Removal of tooltip_markup properties from glade ui files"
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, difficultyBeginner,
skillCpp, topicCleanup"
+ please remember, a codepointer is mandatory, and typically a look from an
experienced developer
+ create new easy hacks from these ones or remove "needsDevEval" if not
feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
+ Made the statistic for needsDevEval and needsUXEval more readable (being
the first
+ We currently have 163 bugs needing UX evalution, this has changed very
rapidly, the UX team should take a look, give advice, and remove needsUXeval,
so that
the bugs can/will be worked on (most people do skip bugs when needs<foo>
is set and solve other bugs).
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
=> timeout for 3 weeks.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Aug 11 13:21:30 2016
master linux rel jobs: 152 ok: 146 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.29 % break: 3
broken duration: 4.73%
master linux dbg jobs: 127 ok: 120 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.94 % break: 3
broken duration: 1.23%
master mac rel jobs: 137 ok: 135 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.46 % break: 2
broken duration: 0.59%
master mac dbg jobs: 146 ok: 143 ko: 3 fail ratio: 2.05 % break: 3
broken duration: 1.03%
master win rel jobs: 127 ok: 122 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.94 % break: 4
broken duration: 1.88%
master win dbg jobs: 125 ok: 118 ko: 6 fail ratio: 4.80 % break: 4
broken duration: 2.35%
master win64 dbg jobs: 128 ok: 66 ko: 62 fail ratio: 48.44 % break: 15
broken duration:60.53%
lo-5.2 mac jobs: 11 ok: 10 ko: 1 fail ratio: 9.09 % break: 1
broken duration: 2.10%
lo-5.1 mac jobs: 2 ok: 2 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0
broken duration: 0.00%
gerrit win rel jobs: 139 ok: 121 ko: 18 fail ratio:12.95%
gerrit lin rel jobs: 141 ok: 114 ko: 27 fail ratio:19.15%
gerrit mac rel jobs: 137 ok: 111 ko: 26 fail ratio:18.98%
gerrit clangplug jobs: 251 ok: 104 ko: 145 fail ratio:57.77%
gerrit all jobs: 275 ok: 128 ko: 144 fail ratio:52.36%
- Window dbg: some system icu troubles (Norbert)
- clang: high fail rates? (Norbert)
- Firebird causes half the builds to fail on clang (Miklos)
AI: - disable Firebird for clang? (Miklos)
* l10n (Sophie)
* Anybody who knows about the installer stuff not on vacation? (Caolan)
+ Andras would be the best person - but on vacation until last week (Kendy)
* Outdated stat links: (Bjoern)
+ this pad has http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q (goes to fdo)?
+ but really should go to http://tdf.io/bibibugs (now fixed, from last
weeks ESC notes)
+ however that needs fixing in bugzilla: whiteboard:bibisected is
keyword:bibisected now
AI: + Who (cloph?) can update the link to:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&f1=keywords&f2=keywords&known_name=LibreOffice%20Bibisect%20%5Btdf.io%2Fbibibugs%5D&list_id=628121&o1=substring&o2=nowords&product=LibreOffice&query_based_on=LibreOffice%20Bibisect%20%5Btdf.io%2Fbibibugs%5D&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=bibisected&v2=bibisectedNewer
+ also suggesting to split/subdivide Writer regression to have filter/perf
stuff separate => discussion next call as its already late (Bjoern)
AI: + bring patch for Writer regression stat update (Bjoern)
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 630
+ enhancements: 79
+ in ux-advise: 25
+ needAdvice at 65
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
+ tdf#100925 - When overwriting a cell, new content is displayed on top
of the old content until finishing the edit
+ Caolan: next steps?
+ Mail merge regressions
+ http://tdf.io/mmregressions (2 open; 3 open last meeting)
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+162 -158 (+4 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Buovjaga 18
Caolán McNamara 17
Regina Henschel 15
Aron Budea 14
Eike Rathke 11
Bartosz 9
V Stuart Foote 7
mahfiaz 7
Adolfo Jayme 7
Heiko Tietze 6
Yousuf (Jay) Philips 6
Cor Nouws 5
Alex Thurgood 4
Miklos Vajna 3
Robinson Tryon (qubit) 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 1/16 - 6%
5.1: 2/30 - 6%
5.0: 7/53 - 13%
4.4: 7/73 - 9%
4.3: 5/69 - 7%
4.2: 8/133 - 6%
4.1: 4/79 - 5%
4.0: 8/82 - 9%
old: 31/246 - 12%
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ 325 (of 1383) older ?
+ http://tdf.io/bibibugs
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 688(+0) bugs open of 5090(+24) total 10(-1) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 4 (+0)
Writer - 3 (-1) (one Windows only, one OSX only, one docx
filter)
Base - 1 (+0)
LibreOffice - 1 (+0)
Impress - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 213 (-2)
Calc - 123 (-2)
Impress - 53 (+1)
LibreOffice - 44 (+0)
graphics stack - 39 (+1)
UI - 37 (+3)
Base - 31 (+0)
Borders - 31 (-1)
Crashes - 31 (+1)
Draw - 27 (+0)
filters and storage - 21 (+0)
Chart - 15 (+0)
Printing and PDF export - 12 (+1)
BASIC - 11 (+1)
Linguistic - 4 (+0)
framework - 3 (+0)
Formula Editor - 3 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
Installation - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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