On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:04 AM, jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > > I experience quite frequently that new contributors follow the instructions, > but end up with a master that will not compile,
these day that is unlucky: here are the stats for the last 14 days: from:Wed Mar 23 21:30:24 2016 master linux rel jobs: 296 ok: 282 ko: 11 fail ratio: 3.72 % break: 9 broken duration: 2.12% master linux dbg jobs: 242 ok: 226 ko: 15 fail ratio: 6.20 % break: 12 broken duration: 2.98% master mac rel jobs: 281 ok: 274 ko: 7 fail ratio: 2.49 % break: 4 broken duration: 0.86% master mac dbg jobs: 285 ok: 282 ko: 3 fail ratio: 1.05 % break: 2 broken duration: 1.95% master win rel jobs: 222 ok: 212 ko: 10 fail ratio: 4.50 % break: 4 broken duration: 1.00% master win dbg jobs: 229 ok: 215 ko: 14 fail ratio: 6.11 % break: 7 broken duration: 2.64% master win64 dbg jobs: 232 ok: 216 ko: 15 fail ratio: 6.47 % break: 7 broken duration: 3.19% broken duration is giving you the following info: if you randomly pull master at any time in the period considered: what was the odd that it was broken at that time during the last 14 days your odd varied from 1 in a 115 for mac releases build to 1 in 30 for windows64 dbg let's look at windows dbg: the last break right this minute on windows dbg was 1 day 9 hours ago http://ci.libreoffice.org/job/lo_tb_master_win_dbg/5935/ "Device or resource busy" either a parallelism problem in our build system or a bug in Windows. master was not really red because of that. the previous break was http://ci.libreoffice.org/job/lo_tb_master_win_dbg/5915/ 2 days 5 hours ago.. direct push by sberg the one before was 2 hour earlier http://ci.libreoffice.org/job/lo_tb_master_win_dbg/5913/ that one seems attributable to Windows crappy FS. the one before that was http://ci.libreoffice.org/job/lo_tb_master_win_dbg/5878/ 5 days 13 hours ago, this one failed on win-dbg tb but passed Jenkins. the one before that was 6 days 11 hours ago http://ci.libreoffice.org/job/lo_tb_master_win_dbg/5851/ that was due to 41bdaa37cc62f656cc164992c4c7d39bec7e57e2 a direct push by noel the one before that was 7 days 16 hr ago and was not due to the commit.. but some jenkins <-> windows interaction problem Note that these kind of 'break' would not actually impact someone pulling master. iow it is red in ci but not really red so of the win dbg break... 3 where due to windows glitches. 1 was properly vetted by Jenkins but still failed in that tinderbox 2 could have been avoided by using gerrit. but in the end that is 3 real break in 2 weeks for a real red duration of 2 hours 38 minutes that is 1 chance in 127 to get a random red state. so :"I experience quite frequently " seems to be a 'count the his/ignore the misses' kind of thing. IOW: my advice... let's keep nudging people to avail themselves of the CI facility and avoid direct push... that would have change the odd of a random red pull from 1 to 127 to 1 in 305 in this particular case. but let's not forget that not that long ago it was easier to count how often windows was buildable rather than hunt the commit where it was not. I also have another data point: the bibisect build: these are less sensitive since I purposefully build them without Werror and I purposfully do not run the checks (the goal being to have binaries.. not to validate the build quality) here are the result: this are the commit in bibisect that cover more than 1 source commit. the number at the end of each line is the number of unbuildable commit that are folded in that one bibisect commit 1dee09a4aa086524fd7704ad3dd6dc7e9ba201f4:1 1ebeb8fb59bfff5b9bdb3ac6db158c7c13e85e70:1 2a019e2b222ad49446c730bdbdea6c6651e36d91:1 3229e0f25f5d55d566208e42b276339a9c3c63c5:1 4c4af51cf6105e635feb206ea193f150f05e0edf:1 6d6a571cd180ee828ec8c8a5bd21a46d571d47ee:1 81168aee40fd18d7fcc475406f4c58ff7ba63455:1 8a70721672f5a1bce10547849435d7a0e286fb45:1 a54383ef92868298a368bcec871e5f2f2b2343b6:1 a9cca36433706038da0a51d6311da1bb77eb6112:1 e5c3bed99f2508b10833ccada394ce1abc37bf07:1 e72fd72eaea986ba41b8afff31ae9b77177fc685:1 f3ed988856fe00c5826781d97aaf2cae61f1abb7:1 4498e0cb3277ce65738acbc7c1faac43e9066430:2 6d46b870384fbfce0293a8fce41e373087ff681f:2 7b7852a9877e1123c60d5872ecf8ff0d78da45d7:2 ac5a57d70ad872f2dfe9d1bff73baa5318042e0e:2 b89bf27413eaf5cfab9a501a297756b8ef22eaa2:2 c6f1dc4f2407945334adef66c989f3878abc7043:2 cc822d9c6af1e8d6e937e23145471daf52ebd472:2 f73273c14261004eae364d06509b029c3a3883f2:2 45efc63eb004ebd2643cea9ebcdd810d0935bfa6:3 5de2c9cdc2e246e98ab43dde0baf14ca0947dd47:3 90fbb1101724c057d3c269f3b05f5584f701bb2f:3 b1d96f0e8acd28c6536896ed9aa70a88daa3f8fc:3 ba10b24c5f679cfcace557a920c83264b374e054:4 cebf63930f184875b7a04b3c95ad182554df5aa6:4 1d25fbbb38f0973147eda92bde66872b7cc974c0:5 1cb794851d2cbb56563a82b763da6c8a696dd465:6 326d9741e8236d3912ca55b0e9a7d4cee7b5a882:6 9e601b0af6620629a4aaf739551809b122cc55a2:7 f7a38779df3d655b6f19db543a2a6fb938d008db:7 a95751670b0782a3beff38628e8dfef9b5f6b843:8 307d0ab9e2227c665679eb7c63d8eaff000c6e7a:9 46360ca22a8c3fd994d47e131c35b119d4c53564:10 4cb47fa02103f02cc229a09855da15892018cd5f:10 2addb6810f00cbf802a6e5be52192f0957f2da50:11 95f3f2c574dd467a50abbc5531ccf9545ccf21cc:12 a43223601d935530b269e8ff9d9a0e673d021141:12 2f5ea0f9d3fe16cf246ccaac2e44b41de9f701f4:14 e3fd7ed5afe94a7c4c442c4990f3cc7133912a90:14 3acad46ef229f3bd1b2fe9399af7e3b5bf6b6d33:15 a4766b0b167dce9be0537040f3306c9cfc0606ec:18 dfc2a983418964c4608f8f7b23d9947cdea7a1d6:22 60382473d6b952978ed66b2c63db328cab04d4a1:25 d34dbc4155245e76b72e617b7e8123e29b4055ed:29 74b9a0610d51bbd4dd789766e42ebcda8ea810dc:37 31c7ac9f3bb171a85cbf0d2f5c506de765ebcd66:79 that is 405 commit in 48 break. that is out of 5405 bibisect commit, representing 5810 source commit there was 405 commit that would not compile and link the 3 worse streak representing 79, 37 and 29 commit respectively all occurred very early in the epoch (more than 2 month ago) Finally there is a fairly easy way around this problem: http://tinderbox.libreoffice.org/MASTER/status.html when you think about pulling go there and check the state of master... if you see some red scroll down find a green point and get the sha of that point clone and checkout a branch at that sha... 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