Sorry I couldn't join today. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Michael Meeks <michael.me...@collabora.com> wrote:
> * Present: > + Jacobo, Kendy, Michael M, Ptyl, Miklos, Stephan, Muthu, Jan-Marek > Andras, Robinson, Norbert > > * Completed Action Items: > + merge the web plugin patch after the conference (Stephan) > [ done and in the 4.4 release notes ] > + massage plan wrt. FOSDEM dev-rooms (Thorsten) > [ working around a joint dev-room ] > > * Pending Action Items: > + Ask Bjoern to do a survey on the wrench icons (Mirek) > + blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern) > + open-source newer Synezip tests (Umesh) > [ Plan to run these on a server on the cloud service, > announce the results in the ESC meeting. ] > + provide wiki links for new processes for design interation (Mirek) > + poke Alex wrt. off-site backup for TDF services (Cloph) > > * Release Engineering update (Robinson) > + 4.3.2 RC1 - status > + currently staged, and has been announced, pushing to mirrors > + following the steps, but the builds worked. > + 4.2.7 - due in week 40 - 29th Sept freeze. > + Android Remote > > * Crashtest update (Miklos) > + a run during the conference, detected some writerfilter issues, now > mostly fixed. > + run interrupted by security update / re-boot > + VM state not preserved across re-boots > + new-run ongoing - will be announced on list. > > * New baseline aka C++11 (Jan-Marek) > + Thread start: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2014-September/063326.html > + Previous baseline: gcc 4.1.2 (2007-02-13) > + Current baseline: at least gcc 4.8.1 (2013-05-31) > + There was additional discussion on IRC (2014-09-18) > + There had been previous discussions in May 2014 ESC calls > + Tinderboxes (TBs) now based on RH 5 + RH Developer Toolset 2.x > + "Official" baseline announced as gcc 4.7 > + "Official" announcement - you'll need gcc 4.7+ to compile LO 4.4 > + LOconf14 talks regarding C++11 > - I didn't get the fact the introduction is due for LO 4.4 > + And the TBs moved the compiler / build tool baseline actually to gcc > 4.8[.0] (release: 2013-03-22) > - TBs actually run 4.8.n (n > 0) > - Basically drops support for all distros > 2 years old > - Ubuntu 12.04 has gcc 4.6 > - I know there are PPAs > - > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa > Just contains offical release toolchains - no > updates! > - > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test > Unsupported (@see Workarounds) and not up to date > with any baseline > - I know there is an unsupported 4.7.2 in precise-updates > (universe) > - Already had an incompatibility bug > - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/11501/ > + Since last week master requires gcc-4.7 (Stephan) > + still works with gcc-4.6 - for now. > + a bug introduced recently, fixed already thanks to Jan Marek > + these things happen whatever the tinderboxes uses > + just a function of the diverse compiler set we have. > + Building master on old Ubuntu (Stephan) > + building on 12.whatever - we broke that > + for the TDF baseline builds, CentOS 5 - we use a devtools > toolchain with a related compiler & binaries that run on the > baseline - apparently not available for Ubuntu. > + Old versions of distros / not compiling master (Stephan) > + was not seen as an issue by the distro people. > + master will only go into recent versions of distros. > + so we have a 12.4 build problem, and need a solution for this. > + If gcc-4.6 is needed - perhaps it works (Stephan) > + we have to subset the C++11 features anyway (Kendy) > + only feature missing in 4.6: delegating constructors (Stephan) > + 'override' and 'final' - we have macros for them anyway. > + possibly some std::library features not implemented in 4.7 > + from the core-language, all that is missing is delegating > constructors > + happy with that (Jmux) > + do we get enough new goodness then ? (Michael) > + sure we get tons - lots of goodies. > + clang use 4.7 as their bootstrap baseline > + can we have a tinderbox running gcc-4.6 (Miklos) > + without that, sooner or later someone will break it. > AI: + setup a LiMux based tinderbox (Jmux) > AI: + send Jmux some tinderbox pointers (Norbert) > + some good slides from the conference on this (Jacobo) > > * Hackfests (Robinson) > + Seattle 'Libre-Fest' (Robinson) > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Seattle_LibreFest > + October 26, 2014 > + Bug-triaging/Intro-to-community event > + Following SeaGL conference > + definite interest, heard back from some professors from the > security lab > + want to meet Norbert and/or Kohei - why not go ? > + Toulouse Hackfest ... > + Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th > + more details: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014 > + Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek): > http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/ > + jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account > + will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming > just show up etc. > + November 21st-23rd, 2014 > https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich > + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible > + Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern) > > * Commit Access > AI: + get Samuel Mehrbrot access again (Michael) > > * Opening up the ESC calls (Michael) > + not everything but most - bridge 2x calls 1x private, 1 public via > the G+ hangout ? > + not v. fond of public recording issue (Norbert) > AI: + see if Florian / talkyo can provide a public / non-recorded room > (Michael) > + some topics eg. security, commit access still need to be private. > > * UX Update (Astron / Mirek) > + use of redmine discussion - issues / benefits. > > * QA (Robinson) > + un-confirmed bug count climbing again - just over 900 > + Robinson distracted by releng while Cloph on vacation > + otherwise mostly quiet. > > * QA stats: > + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html > +143 -93 (+50 overall) > many thanks to the top bug squashers: > Caolán McNamara 13 > Jean-Baptiste Faure 10 > Adolfo Jayme 8 > Michael Meeks 5 > raal 5 > Jan Holesovsky 3 > > * Open 4.4 MAB > + 3/12 7/12 3/8 3/8 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/1 > + > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1 > > * Open 4.3 MAB > + 14/59 15/58 12/54 13/53 14/52 14/50 11/47 14/47 14/45 19/43 10/32 6/27 > 23% 25% 22% 24% 26% 28% 23% 29% 33% 44% 31% 22% > + > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1 > > * Open 4.2 MAB > + 89/257 91/257 86/252 82/245 83/244 83/243 84/236 85/235 82/229 81/222 > 34% 35% 34% 33% 34% 34% 35% 36% 35% 36% > + > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1 > > * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' > + 143/389 146/385 142/375 141/374 136/361 127/349 119/331 102/308 92/296 > + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q > > * all bugs tagged with 'regression' > + 457(+0) bugs open of 3042(+13) total > * ~Component count net * > Writer - 138 (+2) > Spreadsheet - 91 (+2) > Crashes - 30 (-4) > Presentation - 29 (+0) > Libreoffice - 25 (-1) > Database - 25 (+0) > Graphics - 23 (+0) > UI - 20 (-2) > Borders - 19 (-1) > Filters - 15 (+0) > Drawing - 13 (+0) > Print / PDF - 12 (+0) > Chart - 9 (+1) > BASIC - 5 (+0) > Extensions - 5 (+0) > Linguistic - 4 (+0) > Installation - 4 (+0) > Formula - 4 (-1) > framework - 1 (+0) > sdk - 0 (+0) > Impress Remote - 0 (+0) > + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED ) > > -- > michael.me...@collabora.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot > > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list > Mail address: libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org > Change settings: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- *Adam Fyne* Interoperability Team Leader Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/cloudoninc> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/cloudon> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/cloudoninc>
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