Hi Michael, *, On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Michael Meeks <michael.me...@novell.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 16:46 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung <vuhung16p...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Michael Meeks <michael.me...@novell.com> >> > wrote: >[...] >> The counter-question to that user at fosdem would have been "Would you >> be OK with downloading more than twice of the current size in order to >> only having to install one package?" > > So - I guess he would have said "yes", but he is perhaps an outlier; > then again - why do you think it would be more than twice the current > size ? [ clearly we would split the help packs as on windows ].
Yes, split the help-pack and then again it is not one single installer anymore. I still regard help as a core component, and still dislike the rip-out of the help-packages from the languagepacks. So count at least 10MB of help for each language, and you cannot hold your 20% increase in size. > So - I agree; if it were double the size it would be bad :-) but are > you completely opposed to a 20% growth, for much greater convenience for > the common case ? Well, there it comes in conflict with the change of installer, I don't think a package installer is of greater convenience for the common user, and just installing all languages would increase the required disk-space quite a bit. So then it is not only about size of the installer, but also size on disk. >> And to changing the installer type: > > No idea about that - it sounds bad from your description :-) yes. I initially tried to use it for the languagepacks and got frustrated very quickly and resorted to the script that just extracts a tarball method instead. (even there with dirty tricks to bypass the artificial limitation of not allowing user-interaction when creating an applescript/osascript bundle, wrapping the same stuff in a shell-script that calls osascript on the very same applescript works just fine) >> But those technical issues aside, I'm against bundling all languages, >> for the size reasons. I don't like it on windows, and I also do so on >> other platforms... > > Heh - so; what I hear here is: > > "if you can fix the size, we should do it" > > is that fair ? if so, it sounds like an issue to fix in 3.4. Well - if you can do it.... Having one big installer would be more favorable for BitTorrent, so from this POV I'm in favor of getting rid of the small languagepacks :-) (thankfully help is still included in the langaugepacks for mac) So I don't veto it, but the size has to go down. Splitting Mac in installer and seperate languagepack and seperate helppack would be much, much worse, so having a huge installer is the lesser of two evils... ciao Christian _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
