Jonathan, This is now my fourth mail on this issue with no action. It is rather rude to add a few lines at the bottom of a mail without removing the context. To help you count the lines, and re-inforce the point, I will manually number them below; please count them out loud with me:
1 On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 11:42 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: 2 On 2/2/11 10:01 PM, Kevin Hunter wrote: 3 > > At 3:31pm -0500 Wed, 02 Feb 2011, Michael Meeks wrote: 4 > >> On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 13:44 +0000, Wols Lists wrote: 5 > >>> Not quite sure what you mean by "legacy Intel", but if you're 6 > >>> referring to all single-processor CPUs, they still power most of 7 > >>> the budget brand new laptops! 8 > >> 9 > >> Surely those guys are hyper-threaded by now ? at least the Atom 10 > >> (which is cheap as chips [sic] ;-) is. 11 > > 12 > > I recognize this comment was in gest, but thought I'd chime in with a 13 > > tidbit. I believe that Intel removed HTT after the Pentium 4 chip. 14 > > Of note, as well, is that hyperthreading (HTT) is not as "universal" 15 > > an upgrade as true multi-core chips. In fact, the general practice in 16 > > the High Performance Computing (HPC) community is to turn off 17 > > hyperthreading because it degrades performance for most workloads. 18 > > 19 > > A further note is that there is some skepticism as to the security of 20 > > HTT, in terms of side-channel monitoring of in-core process data. 21 > > 22 > > Actually, now that I just wrote the above, I seem to recall a 23 > > discussion of HTT technology in the Nehalem chip. When I have time, I 24 > > might research that ... 25 > > 26 > > Cheers, 27 > > 28 > > Kevin 29 > > _______________________________________________ 30 > > LibreOffice mailing list 31 > > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org 32 > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice Notice, not even removing the ML signature. And then we have the two lines of content: > Kevin you are right the current i7's support HTT. It has come back with > a vengeance. the i5's and the i3's don't support hyper threading. Then I read the content, and do the obligatory google search to see if in fact what you are saying is reliable and useful (it is worth researching what you say before saying it right ?). Intel's pages on their current i5 and i3 processors (eg. http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/processors/corei5.htm ) strongly suggests the opposite. I'm sorry if this seems harsh; but - I would like a lower noise level; absent that - we'll move you to moderated posting until things improve :-) Thanks, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice