https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163503
--- Comment #8 from Mike Kaganski <[email protected]> --- I disagree with NAB. But first, let me quote from bug 164342: (Mike Kaganski from bug 164342 comment #4) > I would suggest instead to split the mixed panels into separate "Western > elements", "Arabic/Persian elements", ... (maybe in the future, there could > appear more variants - I don't know which cultures use other notation). As a > proponent of *removal* of the option that disables RTL (and Asian) support, > I would suggest to not make these elements / panels depend on that option. (Khaled Hosny from bug 164342 comment #5) > To be honest, I don’t understand what is the problem here. Do math users use > every symbol shown in the elements panes? If not, why are the new symbols > are seen as a problem? > > The reason why I didn’t split the new symbols into there own pane is that > Arabic math uses other operators like summation and integral, so an Arabic > math user would need to be jumping between panes needlessly. > > The reason these symbols depend on CTL option is obvious, hiding UI elements > based on CTL option is bad UX and we need to do less of it not more, and > support for RTL math does not depend on that option either. I definitely disagree with idea of hiding features based on language (group). But I also see how the current situation can be problematic - NB: not only to "Western" users, but also to Arabic and Persian. There are cultural differences, reflecting in the formulas, too; and no matter what kind of formula you are creating, you are *very likely* to only need a subset of functionality relevant to that culture, and better not have a mix of different culture elements in one panel. See the clear difference between: * We show all math operations on the panel, even though you are likely to use only a subset of it, because we can't reasonably guess which operations you would need; and it makes no sense to have a separate panel for each thinkable set of math operation; and * We show Western, Arabic, and Persian stuff on a single panel, even though we clearly understand, that a user will need to use only one set of these three at a time. Having a panel per culture group is perfectly fine. Furthermore, it is perfectly fine to duplicate some elements on all of these panels, if that makes sense (some common, culture-independent items) - that is much better than the idea that "we must not duplicate anything, and therefore we create a single unusable panel, so that any user can find everything on it, at the cost of ease of use". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
