https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163385

            Bug ID: 163385
           Summary: Print Dialogue needs to be redone - entirely. The
                    Print behavior is frustrating at best.
           Product: LibreOffice
           Version: 24.2.4.2 release
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: medium
         Component: Printing and PDF export
          Assignee: libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org
          Reporter: socialmediascambait...@gmail.com

Description:
Please pardon my English, being the only IT guy and getting all the complaints
reaaally gets to you after a while.
Let me start by saying that I appreciate everything TDF has done to keep MS
from completely taking over. Microsoft Office and especially this 365 nonsense,
total dogshit. I'll probably use LO until the day I die, but that's besides the
point.
You know what annoys the hell out of Users I switch to LO to avoid paying some
nonsense subscription fee and cloud-based BS? Printing from just about ANY
LibreOffice program. Seriously, what is up with it?

I don't get it. Everything else is pretty awesome. That "dated" UI we're always
talking about? I like it. Who cares if it's ugly, it's easier to use with less
clicks than microsoft's stupid ribbontarded UI. And better yet, everything has
labels and tooltips on LO, it's SOOOO self-fucking-explanatory that I can't
believe I hear people complain about it. It's so easy, literally just use it
and it is so intuitive. TDF devs will never know how much I appreciate the UI
being made FUNCTIONAL before anything else, I could give a rats ass if it looks
"pretty." I hope it doesn't get a beautification just so MS can seethe that
their "pretty" UI is total garbage. Not to mention LO handles MS Office's files
just fine, but MS Office, made by a multi-billion dollar company, gets confused
by the universal .od* file types. God, they're really stupid and have been
since they released Windows 8. Have I mentioned how much I despise Microsoft
yet? Oops, my mask is slipping.

I'm going to be a very harsh critic of this matter, as I believe that no care
has been put into specifically print behavior over the years. Literally that is
the main thing I hear people complaining about, and rightly so! The print
dialogue for LO sucks, and no option to print using the system dialogue makes
it too obvious that it sucks since there isn't a single good workaround.

I just now donated $50 on good faith and because I appreciate LO being
available for free, and I will donate $100 if this is fixed within the month.
Hell, fix it by next week and I'll donate $200. I am not even kidding, that is
how tired I am of fumbling with this.

There is no sensible implementation of setting default print settings for any
of the included apps (i,e, Writer, Calc, Impress) and looking under what
options are there as far as global settings, is pathetically lacking.

Example, go to print out a spreadsheet from Calc, and it assumes the printer
has no margins. "Just define the print range to-" no, I'm sorry, that's a
terrible solution. While I hate MS Office, the fact Excel can figure it out and
the default behavior is to fit to page, I have no idea why LibreOffice is
living in the stone ages. Wtf, the only way that isn't intrinsically stupid is
to export as a PDF and print it from something that doesn't have idiotic print
settings.

"Well this isn't MS Office," Yeah, that part is obvious in where it says
LibreOffice, and not Microsoft Office. This is no excuse for how terrible the
experience is. I believe in this project and the people behind it enough to
know it can be fixed. WILL it be fixed, is the question, not CAN it be fixed.

"We have to volunteer our time, and this software is free..." This is a better
argument, one I completely understand, and that's why I'm giving you money.
Now, because I appreciate what you do, more later if this gets fixed in a
reasonable amount of time. Because, if I have to show someone how to export as
PDF one more time, I'm going to do to my ass what Jimi Hendrix does to his
guitars.

I actually mean it when I say dealing with this issue makes me regret getting
into IT. So, I hope instead of having my feedback be trivialized over "oh well
do this, or try that," no, that doesn't fix the core issue, and until somebody
actually gives a f*ck enough to redo the print behavior and whatever is behind
it, this near-fatal flaw will exist in this software until it is no longer in
development.

Actual Results:
The print settings put me on the verge of a stroke.

Expected Results:
The print settings do not put myself and others on the verge of a stroke.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: Yes

Additional Info:
To note, I've re-installed countless times, removed/reset the user profile, and
the only thing it helped with was assuring me that the current print behavior
is completely doomed if someone doesn't redo it. And so is my ass, if I set it
on fire and smash it against my soapbox stage like Jimi Hendrix.

PLEASE. My brain cells, and ass-tissue are all counting on this to be fixed.

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