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> De: "Firerat" <fire...@googlemail.com>
> À: "LFS Developers Mailinglist" <lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org>
> Envoyé: Mardi 4 Septembre 2012 09:42:01
> Objet: Re: [lfs-dev] campaign to save su
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> > > 
> > > It has been too long since I last played around with it, but
> > > looking
> > > at my scripts I
> > > 
> > > ln -sv su-tools /tools/bin/su
> > > 
> > > I honestly don't recall where the su-tools came from.
> > > It may have been included in the package users hint's blobs (
> > > more_control_helpers.tar.bz2 )
> > > --
> > 
> > su-tools was chap 5 coreutils su, not suid installed, so this is
> > not a solution.
> > 
> well.... you are wrong, it is the solution
> 
no, it is not a solution.
Look at http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/changeset/9810
su-tools was chap5 coreutils su but as that was not convenient to report 
coreutils tests issue in chap6 with su-tool used, it was changed in 
changeset/9810 to be installed under su name (in chap5). So that can't solve 
anything linking su-tools that no more exist under su-tools name or su name as 
coreutils su has vanished since 8.19 upgrade.

> You need to understand why they need it.
> Not for getting root but switching user from root to a non privileged
> user and as such it need not be suid.
> 
I already understand the problem. Thank.

Gilles
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