Armin K. wrote: > Hello there, I have just finished LFS+BLFS SVN (with software from LFS > Trac too, including Perl 5.16.0, Udev+Systemd 183 and Linux 3.4.0). > > I say LFS+BLFS since I installed some BLFS packages during LFS build. I > did not want to complete everything and then install BLFS packages and > possibly recompile some of LFS packages. But, never the less. Everything > works. Also, I ditched sysklogd and used rsyslog for my system since it > provides native systemd units. > > I want to add that I've experimented with "the /usr merge" since I use > one partition for everything. > > $ uname -a > Linux lfs 3.4.0-krejzi #1 SMP Thu May 24 18:33:15 CEST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux > > My hardware is an older Pentium 4 HT with 1024MB of DDR RAM. > > After booting with basic software installed, I get > $ systemd-analyze > Startup finished in 1686ms (kernel) + 7995ms (userspace) = 9682ms
It's not clear what that does. From dmesg, it looks like the kernel is till running at 6.7 seconds. It will take a little longer for the kernel to load all those modules. I don't understand where systemd gets it's numbers. It > Currently running services are > http://paste.debian.net/plainh/14ddd735 That's not very clear to me. > Or if you prefer as ps output > http://paste.debian.net/plainh/504f9d4c Better. > Memory usage with such services is as following > $ free -m > total used free shared buffers cached > Mem: 1007 25 981 0 0 6 > -/+ buffers/cache: 18 989 > Swap: 1080 0 1080 > > with lot of modules as shown here > http://paste.debian.net/plainh/ea7237d9 > > I saw that someone complained about mount output on some other systemd > distro. Here is mount output from my installation. I needed to remove > some useless mounts that I did not need like debugfs and such. > http://paste.debian.net/plainh/aa83f0f6 cgroups should be optional. Imposing complexity on simple problems is not letting the user decide. > securityfs seems to be hardcoded into systemd binary. Others are cgroups > which expose like that. Also, /tmp can be set not to use tmpfs if desired. Another case of taking away user choice. > So, is LFS still going to avoid systemd? I said on trac that it is not > possible to install just udev from systemd tarball. I've asked on the hotplug list, but I havn't received a response. > I've also discovered that udevd is now named systemd-udevd and located > in /usr/lib/systemd (or /lib/systemd/ if not using /usr merge like me). > > systemd also manages configuration of locale (/etc/locale.conf), > timezone (/etc/timezone), hostname (/etc/hostname) keyboard and console > settings (/etc/vconsole.conf). Note that vconsole setup is broken in > default systemd installation since it starts before KMS and KMS resets > console font and charset. I've hacked on it and set it to start after > tty's have been spawned. > > Regarding the dependencies, I've discovered that the following are minimal: > > attr and libcap > expat and dbus > xml::parser and intltool If you want to build a simple web server with no xorg, why would we need dbus? Another case of imposing a lack of choice. > Also, if intended to use systemd-logind as consolekit replacement, > linux-pam is necesary for pam_systemd.so. We use the login from shadow. > Other deps are tcp wrappers (no idea), cryptsetup (for accessing > encrypted volumes), selinux and audit (no use on lfs anyways, I've > stopped using it). -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
