On 11/09/2011 18:09, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 01:40:27PM -0500, Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> This period of time where we discuss migrations would be a good time for >> us to discuss any wholesome changes we might like to implement. We can >> start off with a new server and a clean slate instead of blindly >> replicating the current setup and methods without any thought to it. >> > Maybe, moving to git instead of svn ? Git is a bitch to become > comfortable with [ I dropped out of clfs when they moved to it ] but > it does make branching easy. Perhaps that isn't an issue in LFS, in > which case feel free to ignore this suggestion. > > Also, can we do anything about getting list emails out quicker - > for a long time now, my posts and replies to the lfs lists seem to > take two or three hours to come back to my inbox ? > > ĸen
I agree on the issue with Git and that it appears to be overkill for what LFS needs. But, seeing you raised it, let's at least give it an honest discussion before summarily dismissing it. As for the email delays; that appears to be a Mailman problem. When there are a lot of bounce messages in Mailman's queue (in its qfiles/retry and qfiles/out directories) it can significantly delay the processing of new emails if there are a number of retries ahead of a new message in the queue. Deploying a new server will automatically fix that problem due to a newer version of Mailman that has addressed this issue. Speaking of mailing lists. I wasn't going to bring it up yet but I have toyed with the idea for several years now of moving away from the idea of email based mailing lists and moving to a forum based system. Before all us old timers (myself included) have a virtual "aneurysm", just think about it for a while and get at it from different angles. As an example why to even consider this: as time goes by and technology advances, I am spending less and less time at a computer that has my email programs installed and more time on mobile devices (phones and tablets). Accessing emails to read mailing lists in that way is an exercise in frustration so I've stopped trying. A web based forum would solve that problem. Sure, I could filter email on the server and access via a decent IMAP program and call it a day. But I don't and it's besides the point. Not everybody has that option and needs to download email to their computer before it can be sorted, managed and read efficiently. I think in the end it just comes down to: email based lists made sense 12 years ago when LFS started. It's how things were done back then. I think it's valid to think about a paradigm shift and move to a more efficient technology so we can more easily access LFS from myriad of our computers, mobile devices, tablets and so forth. Some food for thought. Think about it. Comment on it. As always, opinions count. I'd love to hear arguments for both ideas. -- Gerard -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
