Archaic wrote these words on 06/15/05 23:30 CST: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:20:04PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > >>This is of course, going on Matt and Archaic's recommendation that >>the SBU factoring doesn't change until after LFS-6.1. > > Randy, what is your take on the proposal for post-6.1?
It really doesn't matter to me. SBU is just a rough guideline anyway. If post 6.1 changes to use the other two binutils commands, it just decreases the SBU time in all the other LFS and BLFS packages by a hair. To answer your question, I don't think the last two binutils commands belong in the timing of the SBU, as these two commands aren't involved in the build process of the *binutils* pass1 chapter 5 package. These two commands are used as part of the setup for binutils in pass2. To me I see this different than you. Where I am confused, is to what extent of the "gray boxes" as you phrase it, do we count in the BLFS side when calculating? Do we stop after the installation section concludes, or do we use the steps included in the configuration section? More than that though, is my personal way of calculating the SBU times, I must admit I do it in a most peculiar way. I don't run configure-make-make install all at one time and time it. I take separate times for the 3 steps (more steps in unusual cases) and add them. Why? As a builder, and especially as a BLFS editor, I want to run these 3 steps individually, and examine the output of each log file. Sure, this is tedious, but I don't care. If make fails because I added a dependency that chokes the build, and then immediately run make install, I'll get who-knows-what installed on the system. This is not worth it to me. I like to be very precise and know that when I run make install, it is after a totally clean build. So I run configure-make-make install in separate steps and add the times together. If I had to now change things, so that everything in "gray boxes" was needed to be added in, this would be simply too much work for me to do correctly. However, it is my experience that you can run all the configuration and nic-nac post-installation tasks (even installing docs during the installation commands) after make install in one second or less. So the configuration steps really are negligible time-wise. Sorry for the long post. My take is that it doesn't matter if the last two binutils commands are used, I'll just adjust times accordingly. But I'm not sure I'll ever time anything after the make install commands, unless it really proves to be time-consuming. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 23:31:00 up 74 days, 23:04, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.11, 0.10 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
