Thanks Curt, I hope others find it useful. I have not been posting his newsletter due to lack of interest. But this one I hoped everyone would read and have something to add.
Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 7:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I really like this one, Tim. > > Good advice to stop problems before they happen. > > Thank you. > > C.A.G. > On Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 06:58:21 AM EST, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Here is some extremely good information for all of us. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Ron Brown's Best, LLC* <ron_browns_best_...@ronbrownsbest.addr2.com > > > Date: Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 2:10 AM > Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What It Tells You > To: <timjzieg...@gmail.com> > > > > > What does it tell you? > > > > 1. When you cut a bowl blank round on the band saw and begin to hear a > tic, tic, tic that you haven’t heard before, what does that tell you? > 2. When you hollow out a bowl, vase, or hollow form and the pitch > changes, what does that tell you? > 3. When you see a small crack along the edge of the platter, you are > almost finished turning, and hear a small thunk, thunk, thunk, what does > that tell you? > 4. You are using CA for the final finish on a pen blank. You see a dull > spot as you sand, what does that tell you? > 5. If you have to push harder to make a cut with your gouge, what does > that tell you? > 6. As you move down the inside of your bowl blank, you keep getting > ridges, what does that tell you? > 7. Torn grain keeps showing up on both the inside and outside of the > bowl you are trying to make your final cuts to finish. What does that tell > you? > 8. Your truck has been turning over more slowly lately when starting, > what does that tell you? > > > > My point is that there are almost always signs letting you know what is > coming if you have eyes to see and ears to hear. Whenever something > changes, don’t ignore it; it might prevent something bad from happening. > Awareness will help you foresee what might be coming in time to take action > to fix it or avoid the consequences. > > > > New turners who have not yet learned to recognize the warning signs of > impending danger, push ahead anyway. Experienced turners step away, turn > off the lathe, and address the issue. > > > > *Possible Answers to the questions above:* > 1) Band saw blades about to break at the weld will start making a tic, > tic, tic as the blade begins to separate. It is only a matter of time > (usually not long) before the blade breaks all the way through and will > need to be replaced. > 2) A change in pitch when hollowing (or cleaning out the bottom) can > indicate the wall thickness may be getting too thin. This sound is usually > heard just before you cut through the side or make a funnel and is often > followed by a long string of profanity. > 3) This sound is usually caused by wood movement. The crack means one > piece of wood has moved since the tension is gone and is now striking the > turning tool differently than the piece next to it. If the defect was known > and is intended to be part of the design, proceed carefully. If not, the > piece may be ready to separate while spinning, and could smack your > forearm, causing chaos and more bad language. Don’t ask me how I learned > this. > 4) Dull spots in a CA finish mean you’ve sanded through to the > material. You will need to apply more CA and begin sanding from the > start. > 5) More force to make a cut means your tool needs to be sharpened. > 6) Two ways you can eliminate unwanted ridges: changing to a scraper or > switching to a gouge with the heal removed. > 7) If there is enough material left, torn grain can often be removed > using the same methods as unwanted ridges. > 8) A slow cranking vehicle might mean your battery needs to be > replaced, your alternator is malfunctioning, or your starter is failing. > > > > If you know what to look and listen for, every aspect of life has similar > warning signs. They serve as a warning so we can take corrective action and > avoid sometimes catastrophic events. 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