I thought the England games were brilliant! The Slovenia one made traveling to Glastonbury and getting in the site so much easier. The other one gave nearly two hours of bustle free time around the site on Sunday, outstanding.

On 29 Jun 2010, at 16:37, John Lee wrote:

--- On Mon, 28/6/10, Nigel Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
Feeling proud of the team would have been great. Let's not forget how we felt after beating Man U in the Cup. But the England played like dead men
walking, so this inevitable was a huge relief.--------

Absolutely! If there were any waverers over club v country, then it's clear that both players and supporters are now aligned. Feel sorry for anyone who went, but hope it was a case of great holiday ruined by some inept football.

All talk of future seems to be revolving around age rather than ability. I would like to see both Johnson and Terry dropped from future Ingerland teams. Johnson cannot defend and looks as dumb as the proverbial, whilst Terry is just a mutineer who could have made an already bad situation worse. Plus he's slower than Tony Adams. It's alright having a crunching tackle and be willing to put your head in the way of anything, but if you're 10 yards of the pace it's a waste of time, unless Emile Heskey decides to change his nationality! Other never agains - Lampard (ineffectual always), James (got away with the World Cup, but can't be trusted), Heskey (no explanation needed).

Taking injured players - it's a risky strategy that has never worked for us - think Keegan, Owen, Robson, now Rooney, King and especially Barry?

2018 - please, please do not give it to England!! No qualification group, meaningless friendlies, claims of it's all come good when we get to the competition after 3 1-1 draws with Ecuador, Luxembourg and Australia, followed by the crushing realisation that even home advantage counts for nothing if you can't pass a ball! Please, anywhere but England!

TIRED? Poor diddums. Tevez didn't look to tired when he whalloped that goal against Mexico. Strange eh?


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