The steward up there seemed like some half-dead student who did bugger all about it.
Some of the lads around me are from Barnsley I think and seemed to know the two fans in the box there. Not usually tolerated though. I'll never forget the stick some fat Sheffield Wednesday kid got about 6-7 years ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DAVID NATTAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [LU] Barnsley Hi Dave, Take your point about the captaincy but to be honest I don't care - Crainey shouldn't even be on the pitch to be considered in my opinion. I disagree with Douglas who I thought was shite especially at right back. He also added nothing when moved back in to midfield. What about the atmosphere ? I couldn't believe it when the Barnsley blokes got up at the back of the NE. Normally they are either thrown out by the stewards or paggered by the lads in the NE. Hardly anybody even got out of their seats, just couldn't be arsed. Maybe the early kick off or the fact everyone had been up watching Collingwood and Pieterson all night might be the reason. --- DAVID NATTAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agree with a lot of it - 2nd half we were terrible. > As well as all the faults Rich has outlined we also > have a big problem defensively when anyone runs at > us and that led to both their goals and a couple of > other chances for them > However, had Westlake done better when set up by > Kandol or had the lino not disallowed the goal by > Heath (not sure why - we thought perhaps ball had > gone out and come back in from the corner ?) then we > may even have won ! > As for Crainey as captain I think it was just that > Douglas had been handed the arm band by Derry and > passed it on - a bit like the friendly when the > press went into hysterics when England had 6 > captains in the second half- you can't read anything > into it. In the old days when the captain was taken > off \ sent off no-one knew who was captain, now > there is an armband, it means nothing. I can recall > Walton wearing it and if I remember rightly Jason > Blunt !! > I think Wise was wrong in playing Douglas at right > back if Frazer was anything like fit, but other than > that I thought he did Ok - he has the sense \ bottle > to sub a hugely under performing Derry and we have > not had (m)any managers recently who would have done > that ! > I agree a lot of our players are not good enough > and it is a case of seeing what January will bring, > but it was not a good day today !!! > Dave > PS have 2 other home debutants (both loanees) ever > scored ? > > Richard Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First time for a while that I've been pissed off > walking away from ER Honeymoon period is definitely > over for Wise because I'd put our second half > performance today on a par with any of the shite > that > Blackwell's teams served up. Quite simply, we were > atrocious. It really is beyond belief how > professional > footballers can display an inability to pass a ball > 5 > yards to another white shirt and the inability to be > able to trap and control a ball immediately. Here's > a > list of players in our team who displayed this trait > this afternoon - Heath, Derry, Douglas, Kandol, > Moore, > Westlake and Lewis. Others find it difficult to do > the > basics they are paid to do - Crainey. In a second > half > in which there was only going to be one winner and > it > wasn't us we showed what a team of misfits we are. > No > team cohesion, no ability, no control , no bottle > (Derry) - an absolute shower of shite for the full > 45 > minutes. The midfield was non-existent and when > Derry > went off after his worse performance for Leeds since > he came here we actually got worse. We just kept > giving the ball away and in the end we just resorted > to Wimbledon tactics with long punts and long throws > into the area. It didn't work. Barnsley are a shite > team but they continued to play football in the > second > half and continued to cause us problems especially > down our left. Crainey doesn't mark his man. He > gives > him space and time to receive the ball allowing them > to run at him. Crainey is terrible at going > backwards > and just gets skinned everytime. It's the second > time > against Barnsley where we have played ok in the > first > half and then come out second half and been totally > ineffective. I believe with a bit more belief in > themselves away from home Barnsley would have easily > won this game. It also helped that Nardiello, the > man > of the match by a mile, got a knock. Nardiello is > the > sort of player we should be looking at. With a > decent > bid we'd surely get him. He came on second half at > Oakwell and murdered us and today he was head and > shoulders above everyone else on the pitch. He's a > poor man's Wayne Rooney - he's strong, got good feet > and good skill and he knows where the net is. His > first goal was excellent. He got in and away from > our > makeshift right back Douglas then completely > nutmegged > Derry in the box before jinking right and powering > an > unstoppable shot into the far right hand corner. > Brilliant ! > We fought back though in the first half and we > looked > dangerous and created chances. I thought at this > stage > this is a game where we going to concede a few but > whatever we concede we will score one more and win. > I > still believed that at half time but maybe Wise has > continued where Blackwell left off with regards to > half-time team talks by handing out meat pies and > champagne. Something must have happened cos it was a > different team second half. Maybe it's just a > fitness > thing. Back to the first half and our equaliser. I > gather we must have won the toss and decided to kick > towards the kop because of the sun. If so it worked > 'cos a high ball goes up and their keeper comes a > long > way and loses it in the sun handing Kandol the > easiest > of nod ins for his first goal for Leeds. He looked > lively throughout without being spectacular, > although > I think when you're assessing Leeds strikers you > have > to allow them a little bit of slack due the complete > lack of creativity from our hapless midfield. To his > and Moore's credit they battled hard, won headers, > made runs and created chances - they both had a > decent > first half. Both though are not in the same league > as > Nardiello - they both lack composure and in Moore's > case he lacks any real quality and spends an > extraordinary amount of time on his arse. Is this > really good enough for us ? Barnsley's second goal > came down the other side. Crainey went missing and > was > so far up the pitch he was never going to get back > leaving loads of space for Nardiello to expose. It > was > a good finish but yet again our defending let us > down. > I am assuming that Crainey is only in the team as > there are no the options ? (Wise's opinion anyway - > not mine cos I'd play Gus Poyet at left back before > I > put Crainey's name on that teamsheet) but maybe that > is wrong cos when Derry was subbed guess who the > captain's armband went to ? Yep, Stephen Crainey. > F'cking hell I couldn't believe it. It immediately > broke an LUFC record - worse ever Leeds Utd captain. > This record was previously held by Paul Butler. For > f'cks sake, here's a guy who has all on trying to do > his own job never mind having to consider what > others > are doing. It was a shocking decision and a complete > piss take as far as the Leeds fans near me were > concerned. Crainey is simply not good enough to play > for Leeds, never mind be our f'cking captain. How > many goals will it take to make Wise realise this ? > Our equaliser was a decent move with Westlake's only > decent contribution to the match , a decent deep > cross > to Derry at the back post who strangely decided to > head back into the middle rather than towards goal. > It > turned out to be a good choice as Ehiogu connected > and > powered a great header home. Ehiogu won everything > in > the air today. It was a perfect goal at a perfect > time > but we just didn't capitalise second half. Very , > very > disappointing and I think with that team relegation > is > definitely on the cards. You can only hope that > January brings a new left back and some musch needed > creativity in midfield and Nardiello up front. That > would be my wish list. > > Stack - 5. Ok, I've had a good look at this fella > now > and I reckon he is a good shot stopper but not much > else. He dithers around his area and shows no > control > or confidence to his defenders. He's a flapper. > Douglas - 3. This bloke can't play in his designated > position so why do we expect him to play at right > back. F'cking ridiculous decision. Douglas is shite. > > Crainey - 2. No positional sense at all. Can't > defend, > continues to cost us goals. It makes you sick. > Captain > fantastic - still can't believe that one. > Ehiogu - 7. I thought he did well today. He's got > the > === message truncated === Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. 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