As Dave Brennan quipped at a Yeovil game when I was chuntering, the problem is you’re comparing us to a Premier League team, and we’re not!
All of our players are very good Championship players; some of them may even make the step up eventually? I doubt there’s a single player in our squad who I haven’t thought was a bag of sh*te at some stage? Meslier is a pretty decent keeper at Championship level - I genuinely don’t understand some of his decision making though, and Saturday was another which baffled me, and cost us a goal, and points. He also makes some great saves, is pretty good at playing the goalie/sweeper role, and has all the physical attributes a goalie needs! In short, he’s probably as good an option as we’ll get at this level. He wasn’t alone in costing us points though, but again, we’re a pretty decent Championship squad, in a great position in the league. The Hull goalie’s pass to Piroe was another goalkeeping clanger - it happens! > On 5 Jan 2025, at 21:04, Graham White via Leedslist <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yes, our team is so crap and our goalkeeper such rubbish that we´re top of > the division, most goals scored and best goal difference so lets get rid of > them all! > As for blaming one player for all our problems <cough> Luciano Becchio > <cough>, who currently happens to be the Assistant Manager at DC Atletico > Baleares here in Mallorca (equivalent to an English League 2 club). > Cheers > > Graham White > -------------------- > Mobile (Spain): (0034) 628 13 82 47 On Sunday 5 January 2025 at 19:06:47 > CET, Simon McNally via Leedslist <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don’t think I’ve implied anything like your last paragraph. > If we’ve got money to spend I think they should spend it on a new keeper. > You don’t - I think you’re wrong. > I worry what happens if he makes another error? The crowd will be on his back > and if we wait until after January there will be no option other than Darlow. > I’m genuinely staggered that you are still trying to defend him - in notice > you’ve not managed to provide any examples to back up your misplaced > confidence in him. You say you’ve been watching for 50 years. Do you need to > check your glasses prescription? > For someone who doesn’t like scapegoats you keep mentioning Ampadu. As Rich > said he wasn’t great but as he is usually flawless I think he’s got a bit > more credit in the bank than a keeper who has made a number of errors. > > > Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: Paul Cundell <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 5:55:34 PM > To: Simon McNally <[email protected]> > Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LU] Transfer Window > > I'd argue that if Ampadu doesn't get caught the wrong side of his man that > they don't score at all. > I'd also argue that regardless of the scoreline, you don't need any bigger a > boost in confidence than being unmarked at the edge of the area for a corner. > "He's not solely to blame" and you're "not looking for a scapegoat" but it's > all his fault. > You want to blame someone and it's him. I think you're wrong and there are > deeper problems than that. > You imply getting a better keeper is like nipping down Sainsburys for a > carrot and think replacing him with a third choice PL goalie who's been > benchwarming for their reserves is the solution. > > > On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, 16:46 Simon McNally, > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Of course he’s not solely to blame for everything bad that happens. > I’d argue that we don’t gift them that second and give them a confidence > boost and a way back into the match we run out comfortable winners. > You watch games analytically but on the other hand you don’t like stats? How > does that work? > I’m not trying to make him a scapegoat for all our woes but the Sunderland > equliser and the second yesterday are unforgivable for a keeper at this > level. If he’s made two of that calibre already this season how many more is > he going to make? Can we afford to find out? > I’m intrigued by your sweeper comment - can you provide examples that show > he’s effective at that? He participates in our build up from the back but I > don’t recall too many instances of him sweeping up behind the defence. More > often Rodon /Struijk win the ball and play it back to him. > I’m not sure how stating a save percentage of 66% is garbage is twisting the > facts to suit. > That 66% is a fact and it is also a fact that it is the 18th highest amongst > championship keepers. I’d say 18th out of 24 was garbage. Certainly for a > team chasing promotion. > The circumstances one is an interesting point. I think often it’s him > dithering on his line or flapping at crosses that creates the problems , I > certainly think it contributes to our poor record defending set pieces. > Watch him closely next game he plays (hopefully not for us). Count the number > of times he claims a cross from a corner or free kick, how many times he’s > rooted to his line and how many times he starts to come, hesitates and goes > back. > I bet there’s very few of the first and a lot of the other two. > It’s not that I don’t like him, I just don’t think he’s a very good > goalkeeper and I think he has cost us key points and will continue to do so. > > Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: Leedslist > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf > of Paul Cundell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 4:29:14 PM > To: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [LU] Transfer Window > > OK, if I concede that he was at fault for the second, do you concede that > it was more than him at fault for the other two and that, therefore, > regardless of your low opinion of him, he isn't solely to blame for us > dropping 2 points yesterday? > He's the second worst at Elland Road? Really? You watched Darlow against > Boro? > Yes, I do watch games and have watched them for over 50 years but perhaps I > watch them with a little more analytical and less knee jerk view than some. > I've never sought a scapegoat for our performances but it seems some are > only happy when they can blame an individual, perhaps it consoles them to > believe there's some easy magic wand way of eradicating the heartache. To > me, it's irrational to blame one person for the results of a team game, but > to some it's easier to say it's all his fault than look at the actual > circumstances that created that "error". > Actually, I said you can twist stats to suit and you did just that by > claiming that a 66% save rate is garbage. Part of the reason, teams don't > get a shot on target is Mesliers role as sweeper, but we'll gloss over that > too. > You don't like him, we get it. > > >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, 14:37 Simon McNally, >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Are you for real? >> Do you actually watch the games? >> He’s the second worst keeper I’ve seen at elland road (after the Watford >> keeper). >> He makes very few saves - you’re not a fan of stats but if you take 3 >> shots at him on average one goes in. That can’t be good enough for a team >> chasing promotion. >> You say I give him no credit for clean sheets - how is he responsible for >> them in games where the opposition didn’t get a shot on target? >> I find it odd that you are happy with him chucking away points - who else >> are you blaming for Sunderland or the second goal yesterday? >> He doesn’t command his area - he either dithers on his line or flaps at >> crosses (like he did for the third yesterday). >> It must be a nightmare playing in front of him. >> He used to just let in shots not directly at him but he’s expanded that >> this year to ones straight at him (Portsmouth) or to palming the ball out >> to opposition players (second yesterday). >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P.
