I turn 30 at the end of the month, and the only managers on your list who have
managed in my lifetime are Clough and Ferguson.
The game has changed a bit in 30 years—for better or worse.
I think that a lot of criticism of the DoF/head coach arrangement is that we
don’t know how the two roles work together.
Personally I think Christensen should have been sacked for a few different
reasons. But certainly if he didn’t knock on Orta’s door and asked for a CB,
then it is unforgiveable and he should be sacked for that alone.
And if Orta couldn’t find a decent CB to bring in, then he should be on the hot
seat or out the door.
I just don’t think it is accurate to say the head coach has no input on
transfers in or out. But that is not his primary role.
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> On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:11 AM, {broken-address}
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't disagree with anything you said. But I wasn't implying it was a
> football manager game. What I was suggesting was that letting the spine of
> the team walk away and replacing those players with others who are no better,
> and probably worse, should not logically lead to a more successful season.
>
>
> I also think that the director of football/head coach set up is illogical.
> It's hard to think of a legendary manager in England in modern times -
> Busby/Shankly/Revie/Clough/Paisley/Ferguson - who would have countenanced
> having someone who'd never played or managed in the game provide him with a
> playing squad over which he had no influence whatsoever.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Naef <[email protected]>
> To: {broken-address} <[email protected]>; mib
> <[email protected]>; leedslist <[email protected]>; nattan <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 8, 2018 8:45 am
> Subject: Re: [LU] Radz interview
>
> It's the modern way that responsibility is split and that the job of manager
> no longer really exists. Coaches coach and decide tactics, football directors
> look for players to match the requirements, even José works that way.
>
> I think implicit in Radz comments is a criticism of Orta, as it was he who
> saved TCs job after Newport.
>
> As regards replacements, you can only get them if they are willing to come,
> where is a 30 goal a season striker, or top level premiership defender who is
> available and willing to come to Leeds?
>
> This is real life, not a Football Manager game.
>
> Sent from my Mobile
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [LU] Radz interview
> From: {broken-address}
> To: [email protected],[email protected],[email protected]
> CC:
>
> I agree. It also looked like Radz was covering for Orta. The articles gave no
> indication that Phil Hay asked the key questions: How can you expect a
> manager/"head coach" to achieve optimal results with players he hasn't had a
> say in choosing? And when you allowed the spine of last season's team to walk
> out of the door during the summer, do you think Orta replaced them with
> players who are as good or better? If not, why did you insist that the
> minimum requirement this season was to do better than last season?
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>
> To: Leeds List <[email protected]>; nattan <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 8, 2018 5:11 am
> Subject: Re: [LU] Radz interview
>
> All should have been unsaid. It sounded as if he was doing a knife job and
> covering his arse.
> TC went with grace , why embarrass him? To make Radz look good. It added
> nothing. There was no point, it grated
>
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> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 12:04:08 PM
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Radz interview
>
> Radz seems to be getting stick for his 'mistake' comments re TC
> I think it is a good interview, he actually says "anything that does not work
> is a mistake, so yes I did make a mistake'
>
> To me that is Radz admitting that HE (Radz) made a mistake in appointing an
> unknown, unproven, foreign manager from a third rate footballing country -
> something we all agreed on at that time (albeit we all hoped that it would
> work out)
> He is very open with the fact that he wanted to sack TC a few weeks ago and
> openly complains about his use of the squad and the debacle at Newport
> I also like his comments that we were very slow off the mark in a number of
> games and said this was lack of confidence instilled by the manager
> It is rare for a chairman to be so forthright after a sacking so fair play to
> Radz on this one.
> As for Hecky, Hecks, Heckers or Bottom / Arse which will be his nicknames if
> he does not deliver his interview is also quite good but we have heard it all
> before 'big club, great fans, wonderful facilities and history, ought to be
> in the Prem etc'
>
> His footballing comments about 'high pressure, attacking with and without the
> ball, committed, aggressive etc' are all good to hear but stuff the last X
> managers have also told us. As for all of them the proof is in the pudding as
> they say. Rosler was the 'best' for me - promising 'heavy metal football' and
> then after one game claiming the players were tired, giving them a ready made
> excuse.
> I wish him all the best and think it is a decent appointment and one that
> might, just might, work (but I have thought that before and been wrong) - he
> has a tough start and is handicapped with a number of players injured and
> some more still suspended. Let's hope he can do enough in a couple of days to
> get us up and going for the sheff Utd game
> Dave
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