You have identified one of the great Bates myths where you say "our allegedly 
enormous ongoing debts". 
The Truth is that the vast bulk of the debt had been dealt with by the actions 
of the Krasner group. Bates actually said this himself when he originally 
arrived but that has been swept under the carpet in the convenient mythology. 
The bulk of ongoing debt was in fact football creditors and that debt eroded 
over time as it was paid off. There were some overhanging issues (contingent 
liabilities) but the overhanging debt problem had been largely overcome. That 
is the tragedy of Bates' involvement. He kept the club needlessly mired in the 
pit when it should have been emerging from the darkness. He shifted the blame 
onto Ridsdale and partly in the fans eyes onto Krasner just as he did onto 
Mahwhinney and the FL. It's all lies.
That's also why our recovery has been much slower than at other clubs. Think 
about it. How can we wipe out the debt through administration, have much bigger 
income streams than our rivals and yet still continue wallowing in a financial 
mess ?

That is why a whole new set of creditors was created, as a tool for Bates to 
use to take the club into administration. 
Nobody has ever explained what the money from these new creditors was used for 
and it is to easy for people to assume that it was a carry forward of the 
Ridsdale debt without thinking about it. That is what most of the media do 
today. The truth is that there is very little real connection between the 
Ridsdale debt and the club going into administration under Bates several years 
later. You could even view the debt under Bates as the physical manifestation 
of his milking the club. What else was the money (the new debt) used for ?

It a similar picture the the Plc shares. Your loss of shares when the Plc was 
wound up was nothing to do with the subsequent Krasner or Bates tenures, as you 
rightly say. There is no real connection.
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John 'Grampa' Sykes
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