Rich, retirement is the eventual outcome for all players who do not literally 
perish on the pitch.

Michael Gardiner
San Diego Whites

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>   4. Re: Yoevil (Richard walker)
>   5. Re: Yoevil - me v Rich (Richard walker)
>   6. Re: Yoevil (Jim Moran)
>   7. Non Lu: Becchio (Richard walker)
>   8. Re: Yoevil (Richard walker)
>   9. Yoevil - Austin ([email protected])
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:08:50 +0000
> From: Richard walker <[email protected]>
> To: Wayne <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU Becchio Watch
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> I'd rather have Ryan Hall. Better player. Both shit though.
> 
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>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 19:09, Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd rather have him than Ryan Hall..
>> From: Richard walker 
>> Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 6:49 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> CC:
>> Subject: [LU] Non LU Becchio Watch
>> 
>> Great news for Becchio fans - he made the bench. 
>> 
>> Bad news, and this is fairly mystifying, despite being 7-0 down the manager 
>> didn't think it was worth giving the hotshot striker a go. 
>> 
>> Why does he bother turning up ? Surely retirement is the eventual outcome to 
>> this nightmare for him ? 
>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:33:25 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LU] Yoevil
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> 
> ?3 points and a clean sheet - so job done.
> Yes it was not the prettiest or greatest performance, especially first half, 
> but we did what we needed to do and deserved the win.
> We missed Byram as right wing back, albeit Peltier had a decent game, and 
> then things got even stranger when Warnock went off just before half time and 
> Pearce ended up as left wing back !
> The weather was awful with huge gusting winds (perhaps the hardest weather to 
> play good football in) and then a couple of torrential downpours, but no sure 
> why we had the coloured ball ?
> We started brightly and Mowatt again showed he is real class with a great 
> shot when off balance that the keeper did well to save, then Rody put in a 
> good cross that Smith only had to touch to open the scoring but somehow he 
> contrived to hit fresh air and the chance went begging. After that it 
> reminded me of some of the games when we played a team from a lower league in 
> cup competitions - Yoevil suddenly realised that we were not that good and 
> found a bit of confidence and drive and took the game to us. For the second 
> quarter of the game they were the better team but never really looked like 
> scoring, on the odd occasion they did open us up the final ball or the 
> strikers touch let them down.
> We were a bit grateful to get to half time but that was not, to my mind, 
> enough excuse for those fans who booed them off at half time - it really 
> annoys me. We are called 'supporters; and are supposed to support the team! 
> Yes I know we pay our money etc etc but whilst it is just about excusable to 
> boo at the end, there really is no point in doing it at half time.
> 
> Anyway within a minute of the second half starting we took the lead, Rody put 
> Ross through and whilst a cross looked to be the better option Ross fired it 
> past the keeper - a good goal and put me and my mates in our place (we had 
> been discussing Ross in the pub and pretty much all agreed we had been conned 
> by him and his agent and should have taken the money) Rody and Ross then 
> linked up even better 15 mins or so later when a lovely weighted ball from 
> Rody split the defence and Ross timed his run and slotted it home. Game over.
> Blackstock came on for the largely ineffective Smith and did look like a 
> decent player and was a bit unlucky not to get on the scoresheet. They had 
> little to offer but did force Kenny into one good save.
> So like I said at the start job done - not the best game or performance and 
> it is one of the games you expect to win , ?and we did. Another 2 for Ross 
> (8? already for the season) and Blackstock looked like he has something to 
> offer. Rody whilst not quite hitting the heights of the Birmingham game had 
> ?a good game and was the difference between the teams, when he plays well he 
> looks a good player and we do well, how he can then turn into a pile of crap 
> in other games is beyond me. Mowatt continues to impress, and Pearce stuck to 
> his tasks well. Marius looks big and was no-nonsense a couple of times, not 
> quite the 'majestic Rolls Royce' that Redfearn talked about but he may be 
> able to 'do a job'
> 
> I don't think we learned anything new - we will probably hover in and around 
> the play off places and then fall short, but Mcdermott must be given a few 
> seasons to follow through on his long term plans. 25k shows that the 
> cheap(er) ticket promotions are working
> 
> Great to be back , fit and well (well almost)
> 
> Dave
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:42:18 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LU] Yoevil - me v Rich
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> 
> Having just posted my report and then got Rich's in my inbox it was nice to 
> see that we were pretty much in agreement - the only real disagreement was re 
> Peltier - Rich said he was poor, I thought that (although he was no Sam 
> Byram) he did quite well
> 
> That apart ,we both saw the same game, one in which quality was at a premium 
> and one in which we were slightly better than the very poor opposition. We 
> agreed that Austin was our man of the match and Ross took his goals well.
> 
> I tend to ?be less critical and more forgiving than Rich but more often than 
> not we do agree with ?how we played and how the game panned out etc.
> 
> It is always good to see that someone sees the game the same way - it almost 
> makes me think that i got it right
> 
> Dave
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:42:54 +0000
> From: Richard walker <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Cc: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Yoevil
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Cheers Dave. Glad you are feeling better. The boos at half-time caused a bit 
> of anger in the NE stand. We're old, grumpy gits but we never boo our team.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:33, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 3 points and a clean sheet - so job done.
>> Yes it was not the prettiest or greatest performance, especially first half, 
>> but we did what we needed to do and deserved the win.
>> We missed Byram as right wing back, albeit Peltier had a decent game, and 
>> then things got even stranger when Warnock went off just before half time 
>> and Pearce ended up as left wing back !
>> The weather was awful with huge gusting winds (perhaps the hardest weather 
>> to play good football in) and then a couple of torrential downpours, but no 
>> sure why we had the coloured ball ?
>> We started brightly and Mowatt again showed he is real class with a great 
>> shot when off balance that the keeper did well to save, then Rody put in a 
>> good cross that Smith only had to touch to open the scoring but somehow he 
>> contrived to hit fresh air and the chance went begging. After that it 
>> reminded me of some of the games when we played a team from a lower league 
>> in cup competitions - Yoevil suddenly realised that we were not that good 
>> and found a bit of confidence and drive and took the game to us. For the 
>> second quarter of the game they were the better team but never really looked 
>> like scoring, on the odd occasion they did open us up the final ball or the 
>> strikers touch let them down.
>> We were a bit grateful to get to half time but that was not, to my mind, 
>> enough excuse for those fans who booed them off at half time - it really 
>> annoys me. We are called 'supporters; and are supposed to support the team! 
>> Yes I know we pay our money etc etc but whilst it is just about excusable to 
>> boo at the end, there really is no point in doing it at half time.
>> 
>> Anyway within a minute of the second half starting we took the lead, Rody 
>> put Ross through and whilst a cross looked to be the better option Ross 
>> fired it past the keeper - a good goal and put me and my mates in our place 
>> (we had been discussing Ross in the pub and pretty much all agreed we had 
>> been conned by him and his agent and should have taken the money) Rody and 
>> Ross then linked up even better 15 mins or so later when a lovely weighted 
>> ball from Rody split the defence and Ross timed his run and slotted it home. 
>> Game over.
>> Blackstock came on for the largely ineffective Smith and did look like a 
>> decent player and was a bit unlucky not to get on the scoresheet. They had 
>> little to offer but did force Kenny into one good save.
>> So like I said at the start job done - not the best game or performance and 
>> it is one of the games you expect to win ,  and we did. Another 2 for Ross 
>> (8? already for the season) and Blackstock looked like he has something to 
>> offer. Rody whilst not quite hitting the heights of the Birmingham game had  
>> a good game and was the difference between the teams, when he plays well he 
>> looks a good player and we do well, how he can then turn into a pile of crap 
>> in other games is beyond me. Mowatt continues to impress, and Pearce stuck 
>> to his tasks well. Marius looks big and was no-nonsense a couple of times, 
>> not quite the 'majestic Rolls Royce' that Redfearn talked about but he may 
>> be able to 'do a job'
>> 
>> I don't think we learned anything new - we will probably hover in and around 
>> the play off places and then fall short, but Mcdermott must be given a few 
>> seasons to follow through on his long term plans. 25k shows that the 
>> cheap(er) ticket promotions are working
>> 
>> Great to be back , fit and well (well almost)
>> 
>> Dave
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:44:35 +0000
> From: Richard walker <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Cc: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Yoevil - me v Rich
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> I would accept that I was comparing Peltier to Byram. I was really pissed off 
> that Byram want playing today. I love watching that lad play. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Having just posted my report and then got Rich's in my inbox it was nice to 
>> see that we were pretty much in agreement - the only real disagreement was 
>> re Peltier - Rich said he was poor, I thought that (although he was no Sam 
>> Byram) he did quite well
>> 
>> That apart ,we both saw the same game, one in which quality was at a premium 
>> and one in which we were slightly better than the very poor opposition. We 
>> agreed that Austin was our man of the match and Ross took his goals well.
>> 
>> I tend to  be less critical and more forgiving than Rich but more often than 
>> not we do agree with  how we played and how the game panned out etc.
>> 
>> It is always good to see that someone sees the game the same way - it almost 
>> makes me think that i got it right
>> 
>> Dave
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:57:34 +0000
> From: Jim Moran <[email protected]>
> To: Richard walker <[email protected]>
> Cc: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Yoevil
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Thankfully I missed the boos as I was busy queuing for beer in what must be 
> renamed the Becchio bar - completely ineffective at doing the job. How I can 
> go down for a beer on 40 mins and not be served until 5 mins before KO is 
> beyond me. Our catering facilities are a complete fucking joke. 
> 
> Can't disagree with your or Dave's reports. We had 5 centre halves playing 
> today (I think?) when Warnock went off so no wonder we struggled against the 
> second worst team I've seen this season. 
> 
> Austin man of the match by a mile. McCormack I thought was poor, apart from 
> the two excellent finishes. 
> 
> --
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:42, Richard walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Cheers Dave. Glad you are feeling better. The boos at half-time caused a bit 
>> of anger in the NE stand. We're old, grumpy gits but we never boo our team.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:33, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 3 points and a clean sheet - so job done.
>>> Yes it was not the prettiest or greatest performance, especially first 
>>> half, but we did what we needed to do and deserved the win.
>>> We missed Byram as right wing back, albeit Peltier had a decent game, and 
>>> then things got even stranger when Warnock went off just before half time 
>>> and Pearce ended up as left wing back !
>>> The weather was awful with huge gusting winds (perhaps the hardest weather 
>>> to play good football in) and then a couple of torrential downpours, but no 
>>> sure why we had the coloured ball ?
>>> We started brightly and Mowatt again showed he is real class with a great 
>>> shot when off balance that the keeper did well to save, then Rody put in a 
>>> good cross that Smith only had to touch to open the scoring but somehow he 
>>> contrived to hit fresh air and the chance went begging. After that it 
>>> reminded me of some of the games when we played a team from a lower league 
>>> in cup competitions - Yoevil suddenly realised that we were not that good 
>>> and found a bit of confidence and drive and took the game to us. For the 
>>> second quarter of the game they were the better team but never really 
>>> looked like scoring, on the odd occasion they did open us up the final ball 
>>> or the strikers touch let them down.
>>> We were a bit grateful to get to half time but that was not, to my mind, 
>>> enough excuse for those fans who booed them off at half time - it really 
>>> annoys me. We are called 'supporters; and are supposed to support the team! 
>>> Yes I know we pay our money etc etc but whilst it is just about excusable 
>>> to boo at the end, there really is no point in doing it at half time.
>>> 
>>> Anyway within a minute of the second half starting we took the lead, Rody 
>>> put Ross through and whilst a cross looked to be the better option Ross 
>>> fired it past the keeper - a good goal and put me and my mates in our place 
>>> (we had been discussing Ross in the pub and pretty much all agreed we had 
>>> been conned by him and his agent and should have taken the money) Rody and 
>>> Ross then linked up even better 15 mins or so later when a lovely weighted 
>>> ball from Rody split the defence and Ross timed his run and slotted it 
>>> home. Game over.
>>> Blackstock came on for the largely ineffective Smith and did look like a 
>>> decent player and was a bit unlucky not to get on the scoresheet. They had 
>>> little to offer but did force Kenny into one good save.
>>> So like I said at the start job done - not the best game or performance and 
>>> it is one of the games you expect to win ,  and we did. Another 2 for Ross 
>>> (8? already for the season) and Blackstock looked like he has something to 
>>> offer. Rody whilst not quite hitting the heights of the Birmingham game had 
>>>  a good game and was the difference between the teams, when he plays well 
>>> he looks a good player and we do well, how he can then turn into a pile of 
>>> crap in other games is beyond me. Mowatt continues to impress, and Pearce 
>>> stuck to his tasks well. Marius looks big and was no-nonsense a couple of 
>>> times, not quite the 'majestic Rolls Royce' that Redfearn talked about but 
>>> he may be able to 'do a job'
>>> 
>>> I don't think we learned anything new - we will probably hover in and 
>>> around the play off places and then fall short, but Mcdermott must be given 
>>> a few seasons to follow through on his long term plans. 25k shows that the 
>>> cheap(er) ticket promotions are working
>>> 
>>> Great to be back , fit and well (well almost)
>>> 
>>> Dave
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:50:42 +0000
> From: Richard walker <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LU] Non Lu: Becchio
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Becchio must be really hoping that Houghton gets the chop, however who will 
> he want in ? I'm not sure Norwich will go for .? Grayson ?,  Mcallister ?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 09:17:28 +0000
> From: Richard walker <[email protected]>
> To: Jim Moran <[email protected]>
> Cc: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Yoevil
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> I missed Macca out on my scores but you'd have to give him 8 , joint MOTM 
> with Rudy. I know what you mean about is ineffectiveness at times but at the 
> end of the day he has that bit extra which most of our current lot don't. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:57, Jim Moran <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thankfully I missed the boos as I was busy queuing for beer in what must be 
>> renamed the Becchio bar - completely ineffective at doing the job. How I can 
>> go down for a beer on 40 mins and not be served until 5 mins before KO is 
>> beyond me. Our catering facilities are a complete fucking joke. 
>> 
>> Can't disagree with your or Dave's reports. We had 5 centre halves playing 
>> today (I think?) when Warnock went off so no wonder we struggled against the 
>> second worst team I've seen this season. 
>> 
>> Austin man of the match by a mile. McCormack I thought was poor, apart from 
>> the two excellent finishes. 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:42, Richard walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cheers Dave. Glad you are feeling better. The boos at half-time caused a 
>>> bit of anger in the NE stand. We're old, grumpy gits but we never boo our 
>>> team.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:33, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 3 points and a clean sheet - so job done.
>>>> Yes it was not the prettiest or greatest performance, especially first 
>>>> half, but we did what we needed to do and deserved the win.
>>>> We missed Byram as right wing back, albeit Peltier had a decent game, and 
>>>> then things got even stranger when Warnock went off just before half time 
>>>> and Pearce ended up as left wing back !
>>>> The weather was awful with huge gusting winds (perhaps the hardest weather 
>>>> to play good football in) and then a couple of torrential downpours, but 
>>>> no sure why we had the coloured ball ?
>>>> We started brightly and Mowatt again showed he is real class with a great 
>>>> shot when off balance that the keeper did well to save, then Rody put in a 
>>>> good cross that Smith only had to touch to open the scoring but somehow he 
>>>> contrived to hit fresh air and the chance went begging. After that it 
>>>> reminded me of some of the games when we played a team from a lower league 
>>>> in cup competitions - Yoevil suddenly realised that we were not that good 
>>>> and found a bit of confidence and drive and took the game to us. For the 
>>>> second quarter of the game they were the better team but never really 
>>>> looked like scoring, on the odd occasion they did open us up the final 
>>>> ball or the strikers touch let them down.
>>>> We were a bit grateful to get to half time but that was not, to my mind, 
>>>> enough excuse for those fans who booed them off at half time - it really 
>>>> annoys me. We are called 'supporters; and are supposed to support the 
>>>> team! Yes I know we pay our money etc etc but whilst it is just about 
>>>> excusable to boo at the end, there really is no point in doing it at half 
>>>> time.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway within a minute of the second half starting we took the lead, Rody 
>>>> put Ross through and whilst a cross looked to be the better option Ross 
>>>> fired it past the keeper - a good goal and put me and my mates in our 
>>>> place (we had been discussing Ross in the pub and pretty much all agreed 
>>>> we had been conned by him and his agent and should have taken the money) 
>>>> Rody and Ross then linked up even better 15 mins or so later when a lovely 
>>>> weighted ball from Rody split the defence and Ross timed his run and 
>>>> slotted it home. Game over.
>>>> Blackstock came on for the largely ineffective Smith and did look like a 
>>>> decent player and was a bit unlucky not to get on the scoresheet. They had 
>>>> little to offer but did force Kenny into one good save.
>>>> So like I said at the start job done - not the best game or performance 
>>>> and it is one of the games you expect to win ,  and we did. Another 2 for 
>>>> Ross (8? already for the season) and Blackstock looked like he has 
>>>> something to offer. Rody whilst not quite hitting the heights of the 
>>>> Birmingham game had  a good game and was the difference between the teams, 
>>>> when he plays well he looks a good player and we do well, how he can then 
>>>> turn into a pile of crap in other games is beyond me. Mowatt continues to 
>>>> impress, and Pearce stuck to his tasks well. Marius looks big and was 
>>>> no-nonsense a couple of times, not quite the 'majestic Rolls Royce' that 
>>>> Redfearn talked about but he may be able to 'do a job'
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think we learned anything new - we will probably hover in and 
>>>> around the play off places and then fall short, but Mcdermott must be 
>>>> given a few seasons to follow through on his long term plans. 25k shows 
>>>> that the cheap(er) ticket promotions are working
>>>> 
>>>> Great to be back , fit and well (well almost)
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 11:15:26 +0000 (GMT)
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> To: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LU] Yoevil - Austin
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> Just watched the highlights on the Football League show (NOT FL72 or whatever 
> stupid rebranding Sky have given it)
> They showed 5 bits of action
> Rody - takes it off one of them near their corner flag and gives it to Mowatt 
> - lovely shot with outside of his boot, saved
> Rody - bursts down the wing leaving 3 players in his wake and puts in a 
> lovely cross - Smith somehow manages to miss the ball otherwise a certain goal
> Rody - gets ball in his own half and takes it forward then passes to Ross 
> just inside of the box and he fires home
> Rody - beats a man and turns towards their goal and puts a lovely ball 
> through to Ross who slotted home
> 
> Just before 2nd goal -they had a long range free kick that was probably going 
> over put Kenny tipped over just in case
> 
> That shows how dynamic and great Rodolph Austin can be and then in other 
> games his touch and passing is woeful and you wonder how he even made it as a 
> footballer !
> If we can get the level of performance out of him that we saw at Leicester 
> away and now Brum and Yoevil at home then we have a chance of the play-offs, 
> if we get the Austin that, by all accounts was terrible at Hudds, then we 
> will be bottom half.
> My concern is that we all seem to agree that Brum and Yeovil were both awful 
> on the day - is Rody one of those 'flat track bullies' who only shows against 
> poor opposition ?
> 
> Dave
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