When you introduce 27 criminal justice bills and over 3,600 new criminal offences in less than a decade, it will leave everyone confused. This could be part of the problem.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Ian Murray <[email protected]>wrote: > Eric, you get justice in the next life. In this life you get the law. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 Aug 2011, at 17:49, Eric B <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Someone saying that justice is on the left or on the right is conflicting > > with justice and its principles/values. Justice is meant to sit bang in > the > > middle of politics. Justice is meant > > to be non political. If policing is on the right then its probably good > that > > justice sits on the left > > to even things out a bit. > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Nicholas Armit <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> left wing judiciary in the UK? Huh? > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Dr. Michael Benjamin. <[email protected]> > >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> Cc: Leeds list <[email protected]>; Leeds List < > >> [email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots > >> > >> Someone asked about Police in other countries. > >> My tuppence: > >> I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no > >> reason. It's quite intimidating. > >> So its hard to see why they lost control. > >> So I guess the propensity to violence must be higher. > >> I do know that the Police reaction and spontaneous reactions are > governed > >> by the cops fear of never being right in any complaint. (my daughters a > >> cop). > >> So if it's bad in Israel I am guessing that it's worse in the UK where > the > >> judiciary are very activist and left wing. They call it liberalism. It's > the > >> last thing they are. > >> So if there's a general impression "that I can get away with it and if I > >> get caught nothing much will happen" added to the lack of confidence of > the > >> cops and you get London burning. > >> All that without taking into account just how easy it is to reach , > >> mobilize and whip up wannabes and the ease of a deviant few manipulating > the > >> masses. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone. > >> D"r Michael Benjamin. > >> Community Psychiatrist. > >> > >> On 9 Aug 2011, at 14:35, [email protected] wrote: > >> > >>> Its not racial but it will be made so. Its theft. > >>> > >>> Our police are pussycats, they have a few cameras, great! Why can you > >> possibly think they have any power? Even the 200 caught will end up > free. > >>> > >>> Again I ask what would have happened if that was Paris (couple of years > >> ago) new york, beijing, dubai, etc... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: "Mark Humphries" <[email protected]> > >>> Sender: [email protected] > >>> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:06:52 > >>> To: 'Eric B'<[email protected]>; 'Ian Murray'< > [email protected] > >>> > >>> Cc: 'Leeds List'<[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots > >>> > >>> I said it wasn't racial. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> And our police have less powers than most, possibly all, other European > >>> countries so not sure what your point is. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Eric B [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> Sent: 09 August 2011 11:57 > >>> To: Ian Murray > >>> Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List > >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> hello fellow east germans, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> based on what thinking is it racial? As far as I can see its a mix of > >>> ethnicities and colors. have you > >>> > >>> got other information? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> also, give the police more powers yeah? they ve got all the fucking > CCTVs > >> in > >>> the world, they ve got > >>> > >>> extreme powers and what happens? NOTHING. Now they ll be asking for > more > >>> powers. Mark my word. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> erich or whatever the east german version of eric is. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Ian Murray <[email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Do we think there's a racial element to this? > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9 Aug 2011, at 07:59, "Mark Humphries" < > >> [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Water cannon with indelible ink, so they can get the fuckers over the > >> next > >>>> few weeks. > >>>> > >>>> I also think we should have the army on the streets. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected] > >> ] > >>> On > >>>> Behalf Of Wayne > >>>> Sent: 08 August 2011 19:46 > >>>> To: Leeds List > >>>> Subject: [LU] Riots > >>>> > >>>> Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing > fck > >>>> all. Shoot the cnuts... or at least set the water cannons on them. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> Wayne > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > >>>> Info and options: > >>>> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > >>>> Info and options: > >>> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > >>> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>> > >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > >> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>> > >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > >> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>> > >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: > >> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >> > >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: > >> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >> > >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
