Hi On 2017-01-08, Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: > On 2017-01-08, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: [...] > openwrt aims to be a "proper" linux distribution, and therefore comes > with on-device package management. > > but we know that to be a problem for the more space-constrained devices. > also, the space constraints make the package manager pretty dumb by > modern standards. both issues have been raised in recent threads. > > so how about optionally externalizing (package) management? [...] > Same here, sysupgrade images do update the kernel as well, so where's > the functional difference between the status quo (using imagebuilder) > and your envisioned plan (other than nomenclature and having to reboot > for 'package updates' == flashing new/ modified sysupgrade images, but > that's merely an implementation detail and unavoidable if you want/ > need to make use of squashfs' compression advantage)?
On the other end of the spectrum, high-end (mostly armhf based) devices
are starting to roll up the market with flash in the multiple hundreds
or even gigabyte regions[1], finally making full in-place upgrades and
on-device package management an option (only limited by opkg's abilities
and the in-place upgrade/ downgrade paths provided by the current
packaging practices (maintainer scripts, library versioning, etc.), so
for these you might even want/ need a(n even) more universal package
manager on the devices themselves).
Regards
Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
[1] * mvebu (turris omnia, 8 GB flash, 1-2 GB RAM)
* IPQ8065 (Netgear Nighthawk X4s/ r7800, 128 MB flash,
512 MB RAM)
* IPQ8065 (ZyXEL NBG6817, 4 GB flash, 512 MB RAM)
* pretty much all sunxi devboards, with NAND and sdhc
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