Hi, It seems to me that one of the biggest accusations levelled at the LEDE team is their split was not done in a transparent manner, and that they are not yet transparent enough.
That sounds great and all as an argument, but it seems to me that from the looks of it the LEDE team is serious about fixing the areas where they are not transparent, but the only only things we've really heard from the remaining OpenWrt developers is what LEDE did/is doing wrong. If the remaining OpenWrt developers are *serious* about change being possible *within OpenWrt* and therefore *truly* inviting a merge back of LEDE with OpenWrt, it would help to see some evidence that the remaining OpenWrt developers are genuinely willing to up the game, including on matters of transparency, governance, and management of infrastructure, and not just trash talk the other team. The CI thing Luka mentioned is an interesting technical improvement, but there is more to this than just technical questions, and this isn't just about doing GitHub because people like GitHub, or other similarly populist items. Furthermore, the remaining OpenWrt developers need to demonstrate they are able recruit new actively committing developers so that the tree doesn't languish or just pick up changes from LEDE. It seems to me that as much as LEDE hasn't been great at communicating, especially before the fork, the remaining developers have been even worse. >From what I recall the openwrt mailing list primarily consisted of patches and ACK/NAK, comments on patches, and little else. The LEDE list and PR process is much more communicative, which is one of the ways LEDE has demonstrated that they really do want to change. Furthermore when questions relating to transparency and communication have come up, the team has been quick to answer and attempt to address the concern (in fact I've been far more of an apologist for them then they have been for themselves, not sure why I feel that way about the fork, perhaps because the have made a demonstration of working for change for the better and that is something I strive to do for myself). I'd like to see similar concrete changes from remaining developers if I'm to believe the arguments that are being made, and which are contrary to the impressions I developed from the lack of communication, and the toxicity I saw on private channels. Regards, Daniel _______________________________________________ Lede-dev mailing list Lede-dev@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-dev
