From: "Darius Blaszijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Darius Blaszijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I suggest you take a look here:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/GUI_design. Although it
needs some cleanup and reordering and a lot of adding to, it is a good
start.
OK.
I did already the reordering.
I will add some info to that page based on this discussion.
I have learned over time that picking just some interface guide is
simply not sufficient. It depends on the widgetset how the form will
showup. So implementing a look and feel should work for all widgets,
unless we implement some mechanism that will enable a look per widget.
I think the main problem is font sizes in different widgetsets. It can be
solved by implementing UI scaling depending on current screen/font DPI.
UI guidelines will consider 96 dpi of the screen.
Does UI scaling work in Lazarus?
Not only the size differs, but I believe in gtk bold does not show up as
in windows.
Bold is rarely used in dialogs. I think it is not big problem.
But before we go there there's a bunch of other more important stuff to
do.
For instance, there are still a lot of forms that are hardcoded (see at
the bottom of the wikipage) we need to do them first. Second step is
redoing some of the forms that are just too crowded.
Yes. That's why I am talking of UI guidelines now. Such guidelines are
needed for forms to lfm conversion and redesigning pages.
I agree with you, I was just pointing out that converting to LFM should
have > priority as we can finally make a consistent look throughout
lazarus. The guidelines are very welcome indeed, I have made some attempts
in the past, but never got to finisihing it. Please add to the wiki.
Sure. I want to convert some forms and opened this topic to discuss how
things need to look :)
- Images on regular buttons (OK, Cancel, etc)
That's subject to taste. But generally cosidered all "standard" icons
are equiped with a glyph to make the form more intuitive.
At least it need to be configurable - disable/enable images on buttons.
We could use the sessionproperties property of a form
(http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/TXMLPropStorage). This way
we could ship different XML files with lazarus that hold different look
and feel settings. This needs to be discussed first with a core member
like Vincent or Mattias.
Hmm. As I see only images need to be changed. They can be handled by some
sort of global image list, which can hold different set of images.
- Different size of buttons. They must be the same size, except some
special cases where caption is long.
I think this is not good practice. How do you decide when the caption is
too > long seing the captions are translated too.
I can say based on my experience only small number of buttons need to be
wider due to translated text size. I always use 75x23 px buttons if
possible. 75x23 buttons is default in all MS programs.
We could use the minimum size like Mattias offered.
I agree. We must decide that size :)
I propose 90x25.
Yury Sidorov.
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