On Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Anthony Walter wrote:
Michael,
I don't want a "visual" table builder and I'm unsure how many others do.
I don't want a visual table builder either, where did you see that
functionality ?
If you are referring to the data dictionary:
this is not the only part of the desktop.
All I want is something to connect me to a database engine where I can then
execute bits of SQL (it executes what you highlight), which is what my
program does.
This is what the database desktop also does.
Lazarus database desktop seems geared towards everything I don't want. I
don't see MSSQL support.
That is a matter of including the mssql unit.
It didn't exist at the time the database desktop was written.
I don't want to setup ODBC DSNs, I just want a straight MSSQL connection.
You will have it. You don't need to set up ODBC at all ?
I don't see an simple create/test connection screen.
Eh ? What do you see under the 'Connections' menu ?
Right clicking in a blank list view to get a menu and then
selecting an option is just bad design.
See above.
Straight off I don't see a SQL
editor either.
Of course not, you need a connection first.
Then you'll jump straight to the sql editor.
The sql editor is no good without a connection.
So I think you'll understand why I don't want to use Lazarus database
No, I honestly don't. I do understand from what you write that you didn't
investigate very deeply.
desktop, and no I don't want to improve it. I'd rather have a stand alone
program for anyone to use on any platform which can connect to MSSQL (or
MySQL) and let you edit and execute SQL. And finally I don't see the point
of using the Lazarus moniker for such a tool.
Sure, suit yourself.
That is the despair and frustration of Open source: everybody suits himself.
The Database tool is committed to the lazarus SVN in the hope that people
will improve on it. Its design may be improved. I am aware the design is
not intuitive, but there is simply a historical reason for the current
design. It is not set in stone, far from it.
We cannot do everything outselves:
- Create basic functionality in rtl/fcl/lcl
- Fix bugs
- Create documentation
- Create useful tools
- Provide help on mailing lists
If everyone shoots off at yet another tangent instead of improving what
exists, no progress is made.
Please do not take this as a token that I do not appreciate your efforts,
but it is very frustrating to see the wheel being reinvented 100 times over.
Michael.
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