Kjow schrieb:
2014/1/10 Hans-Peter Diettrich <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

Well, if Lazarus Manager can't use svn nothing will work.
[...]
*Manually* here means using some tool - which one?

7-zip -> Open

These two tools should be mentioned in the docs, how to check for already installed, or how to install.

No need to explain further details to me, I found the existing documentation sufficient so far.

Without "binutils" nothing will work.

Of course, the manager already checks that and reports problems.


    When I found the target directories missing, I tried to repeat
    "FirstInstall" (no improvment). How do I a clean restart?


Lazarus Manager is not working for you, because it doesn't recognize svn and you don't have extracted binutils.

Sorry, I *did* install svn, 7zip, filled the Binutils dir, and got the sources checked out. My problems start with the compilation of the sources.

Anyway, to restart, just delete the root installation directory you choose for Lazarus Manager (e.g. C:\Develop ).

I've moved the Binutils directory to an safe place now, so that I can copy it into the root directory afterwards. Then restarted with a fresh copy of Lazarus Manager.

Tried to modify the Binutils path, to use my saved Binutils, but the box seems to be read-only. Well...

Started Lazarus Manager, proceed until FirstInstall, copy the binutils when propted, checkout starts, make seems to do something, all consoles close.

BTW a DebugScripts checkbox would be nice, redirecting (at least "make") console output into log files (easier than halting before the consoles close).


Remaining questions:

Where is the make output (installed files)?
The fpctrunk and fpc_2.6.x directories look fine to me.
laztrunk too, but lazarus contains no Lazarus.exe???

How do I start/configure the various Lazarus versions (trunk/stable)?
Do both Lazarus versions use the same FPC (stable branch) version?
IMO they should, at least when Lazarus has to be rebuilt.
So how do I use fpctrunk with Lazarus?

Lazarus setup doubts about the correct "make.exe":
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Warnung:Es gibt keine fpc.exe im Verzeichnis von make.exe. Üblicherweise wird "make" zusammen mit dem FPC-Compiler installiert.
<<
Is it okay to use make.exe from fpc\Utils\bin...?
Could this cause the following problem:

The IDE (1.3) then starts fine, but seems to use *fpctrunk* and consequently fails to build my HelloWorld project :-(

Since this issue seems to be Lazarus related, I'll ask in another thread.


    Please clarify: is the "temporary" path (shown in the log) the full
    path used during the build process? Which other "standard"
    directories are involved?


The path reported in the log is the path that Lazarus Manager use during its processes.

That's fine, and I'd leave it like that. Using and modifying the OS path IMO is not a good idea, because then multiple versions and third party adds can get into the way. I already considered to remove the directories added by previous Lazarus installations...


    How is the \pp directory involved? It was created by another Lazarus
    (older, stable) installation, obviously incompatible with the
    current/trunk projects.


This is the "strange" part... teorically there are not interactions with Lazarus Manager processes... but what you reported has put me on alert.

Looks like this problem doesn't exist any more. At least the files found in pp\bin\... date from 2010.


    A general note on FPC/Lazarus installation:
    I had several installations on my old (Win7) system, but don't
    remember how I made "make" work there, and which one was the most
    recent one. Is there something simpler than the BuildFAQ, telling
    how to make things work without killing other existing installations?


Tecnically, with Lazarus Manager you can install as many times you want different and indipendent installations. At the moment, I have FIVE "roots" within any of them two Lazarus and two FPC installations (branch/trunk) and I have no problems:

Great :-)

DoDi


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