In my request earlier in this chain of e-mail letters that LaTeX2HTML users
perform the \int\limits _{-\infty}^{+\infty} experiment for me, I would like
to add to my list of requested users' installed software packages:
the operating system of the user,
the version of the Perl interpreter installed (obtainable via the command
"perl -v" in a Linux operating system),
and the versions of TeX Live (texlive) and texlive-latex installed [The
Linux command "tex -v" or "tex live -v" may be one way to obtain the version
of TeX Live. In my case in an OpenSUSE-11.3, Linux operating system in Yet
another Software Tool 2 (YaST2) I could under "Software Management" enter
"texlive" in a search of installed software packages; select texlive from
the cases found; and then click on the "Technical" or "Technical data" tab
to see the version information for texlive. Then by clicking on
"texlive-latex" and then on the "Technical" or "Technical data" tab I could
see the version date for its installed version.)
My data for these things are presently for texlive and texlive-latex
"2009-12.11--noarch from openSUSE-11.3-1.82 with priority 99 and vendor
openSUSE." And the command "tex live -v" resulted in "This is TeX, Version
3.1415926 (Tex Live 2009/openSUSE) ! I can't find 'live.' " And the version
of my Linux operating system is OpenSUSE 11.3, or perhaps in more detail
11.3-1.82.
With much ignorance on my part of the internal workings of the various
computer codes a strategy could be to search among the data from people who
don't have the unwanted black line segment under the .html equivalent of
\int\limits _{-\infty}^{+\infty} for a common version of a program which I
don't have installed. Then I could consider the version of that
corresponding program that I do have installed suspect in causing the
unwanted, horizontal, black line segment.
To replace the suspect program a conservative approach could be to first
back up one's hard-disk drive and then replace all of the "Base" and
"Utilities" components of "TeX Live" with a version of the same program in
which the unwanted black line segment did not appear for another user. But
YaST2 appears to do a good job at "keeping track" of the dependencies of one
computer code on another (I think the Yellow-dog Update Manager [YUM] may
perform some functions similar to YaST2 in one or more other distributions
of a Linux operating system.). So a less conservative approach at software
replacement could be to replace just the suspect program within a larger
package of programs and let YaST2 make the necessary dependency
adjustments.---And making those dependency adjustments might require being
online. However, there might be a problem with this approach, for example
if the OpenSUSE-11.3 repositories don't have a desired older version of a
computer program available for downloading. Beyond that if the older
version of a program is obtained from outside an OpenSUSE-11.3 repository,
one could just hope that YaST2 would be designed intelligently enough to
detect dependency problems and help a user with obtaining and making the
necessary dependency replacements. YaST2 appears to be pretty good!
Perhaps it might be able to do or help with those sorts of things.
Also I could be switching to OpenSUSE 11.4 Linux within some weeks.
However, to keep the number of variables from becoming too large, I think it
would be logical to if possible eliminate the unwanted black line segments
at the bottoms of some .png (Portable Network Graphics) images before making
that switch.
But the best approach of all would be to have the suspect code in the
suspect program delimited and fixed or made compatible with the other
computer programs with which it must able to work. Perhaps the more data I
provide on my own relevant computer software and its use, the more likely an
expert on one or more of the programs can guess in which one of them there
could be a problem or else a problem of incompatibility with the other
computer programs it requires to run well. I provided some data on my
relevant computer software and from some experiments I executed. Here I
write "Thank you" to anyone trying to help me.
Pat
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From: "Pat Somerville" <l_pa...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:08 AM
To: <latex2html@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [l2h] Black bars under integral signs when thelimitsofintegrationare -\infty and +\infty or analgebraicfraction for each of the upper and
lower limits
Here is more information on this issue of unwanted black line segments
under especially the .html equivalent of a portion of the LaTeX command
\in\limits _{-\infty}^{+\infty}. For LaTeX and LaTeX2HTML use currently I
am using an OpenSUSE-11.3 Linux operating system; LaTeX2e of September 24,
2009; LaTeX2HTML Version 2008 (1.71); Netpbm 10.35.74-2.21.i586 (Netpbm
10.35.74 compiled on July 5, 2010); and, according to the LaTeX2HTML
output, dvips(k) 5.98 of the year 2009.
1) My test LaTeX file Throwaway7.tex contained a portion of a LaTeX
command that was close to \int\limits _{-\infty}^{+\infty}. The command
"latex Throwaway7.tex" produced the file Throwaway7.dvi. After opening
that .dvi file with the program Okular there was no black line segment
underlining the integral sign and its limits. So this prompts a
conceivable workaround solution that ought to work to produce the integral
sign and its limits without the undesirable black line segment in a .html
file using LaTeX2HTML:
Conceivable workaround solution A
a) Print onto paper the page of the .dvi file containing the desired
mathematical expression without an unwanted black line segment underlining
it.
b) Scan that piece of paper with a scanner. For the scanner program used
with my scanner unfortunately .png (Portable Network Graphics) is not
among the available choices of formats for scanned files; however, even if
I could produce a .png document with my scanning program, I would not know
how to make LaTeX2HTML use it as a portion of an equation. So instead I
could choose the Mult-Tagged Image File Format, .tif file for the scanned
file and in the next step work with it.
c) With the Gnu Not Unix (GNU) Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) 2.6.8 I
could conceivably convert the .tif file to an Encapsulated PostScript
(.eps) file suitable for use as a figure in a .tex, LaTeX document.
d) Run latex and latex2html.... commands on the resulting .tex file to
produce mathematical expressions without the undesired black line segments
under some of them.
Conceivable workaround solution B
In the .tex file define $a=-\infty$ and $b=+\infty$. Then in the equation
for normally \int\limits _{-\infty}^{+\infty} instead use \int\limits
_{a}^{b}.
2) Some old solutions to eliminating unwanted, black line segments which
unfortunately failed for me this time in an OpenSUSE-11.3, Linux operating
system using LaTeX2HTML Version 2008 (1.71):
a) In the file /usr/lib/latex2html/l2hconf.pm with the line $DVIPSOPT
.=" -Pdpf" already commented out with a # in front of it, as suggested by
Shigeharu Takeno in at least August of 2009, also commenting out the line
$DVIPSOPT = ' -Ppdf -E'; .
b) Running eqnfix.sh from http://www.vyvy.org/main/en/node/102 on the
Internet with a command like this: "./eqnfix.sh Directory" in the
directory above "Directory" to generate new and/or fixed .png images in
the directory called "Directory."
I think that probably each of these methods "a" and "b" was successful in
eliminating some undesired, vertical, black line segments in .png images
in the year 2009 for me in an openSuSE-11.1 Linux operating system using
probably LaTeX2HTML 1.70.
3) I experimented with using small font sizes for the limits of
integration of positive and negative infinity, like for example this:
\int\limits _{\mbox{\fontsize{1}{1}\selectfont
$-\infty$}}^{\mbox{\fontsize{1}{1}\selectfont $+\infty$}}. But doing that
did not eliminate the unwanted black line segment underneath the integral
sign. However, interestingly changing the upper limit to a digit like 0
or 1 did eliminate the unwanted black line segment under the integral
sign. But having 0 as the upper limit of integration is not what one would
normally want when the upper limit is supposed to be positive infinity.
One could probably write the equivalent of "-infinity integral to +
infinity" instead as "-infinity integral to 0" minus "+infinity integral
to 0". But I would like to avoid eliminating the unwanted black line
segments in that perhaps awkward-looking way.
4) It might be useful for some other people to try this experiment in a
test LaTeX file called, say Test.tex:
\begin{equation}
\int\limits _{-\infty}^{\infty}
\end{equation}
, and then to issue the commands "latex Test.tex" and "latex2html
nonavigation -no_math -html version 3.2,math -split 0 Test.tex". Then in
the resulting output file Test.html if there is no unwanted black line
segment under the resulting integral sign, please report to us the
versions of the following software packages you used:
Netpbm (For example obtain its version via the command "netpbm -version"
or "Netpbm -version" in a Linux operating system.)
dvips (Please look at the output after a latex2html command for the
version of dvips you are using.)
LaTeX2HTML (Please look at the output after a latex2html command for the
version of LaTeX2HTML you are using.)
and what form of the command $DVIPSOPT... is uncommented out, if any, and
what values there are for the commands $MATH_SCALE_FACTOR=... and
$DISP_SCALE_FACTOR=..in your file l2hconf.pm, which in my OpenSUSE-11.3,
Linux operating system appears in the directory /usr/lib/latex2html.
Perhaps there is some modern combination of software in which the unwanted
black line segment does not appear under the integral sign and its limits.
Or else if someone has a working solution to avoid the problem of the
unwanted horizontal line segment, I would like to know what it is and what
the details of your software environment are.
Pat
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From: "Pat Somerville" <l_pa...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:24 AM
To: <latex2html@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [l2h] Black bars under integral signs when the
limitsofintegrationare -\infty and +\infty or an algebraicfraction for
each of the upper and lower limits
Thanks, JOS, for kindly taking the time to reply to me. Did you find
your
workaround solutions to eliminate unwanted black line segments to work in
a
version of LaTeX2HTML different from the one I am using? I tried the two
workaround solutions you mentioned with LaTeX2HTML Version 2008 (1.71):
1) $DVIPSOPT = ' '; in the file /usr/lib/latex2html/l2hconf.pm in place
of
$DVIPSOPT .= " -E"; ;
2) Including the line "transform round exch round exch itransform" right
after the line "gsave newpath" in the file
/usr/lib/texmf/dvips/config/alt-rule.pro [The path for the file
alt-rule.pro
is slightly different in LaTeX2HTML Version 2008 (1.71) than the path
mentioned within the version of the file alt-rule.pro replacing
alt-rule.pro
in LaTeX2HTML Version 2008 (1.71).].
And for the tests I returned to "$MATH_SCALE_FACTOR=1.6;", without the
double quotation marks, within the file /usr/lib/latex2html/l2hconf.pm.
But
unfortunately in my case the workaround 1 and the combination of the
workarounds 1 and 2 did not remove the unwanted black line segment
underneath an integral sign in the .html file produced by a latex2html
command working with the .tex file containing the LaTeX command
\int\limits
_{-\infty}^{+\infty} within an equation environment. I also tried single
quotation marks or apostrophes in place of double quotation marks in the
line $DVIPSOPT = " -E"; in the file l2hconf.pm; but still the unwanted
black
line segments remained within the produced .html file. So I still
request
help to remove the unwanted black line segments underneath some of my
integral signs.
Pat
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From: "jos" <j...@w3k.org>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 5:02 PM
To: "Pat Somerville" <l_pa...@hotmail.com>
Cc: <latex2html@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [l2h] Black bars under integral signs when the limits
ofintegrationare -\infty and +\infty or an algebraic fraction for each
of the upper and
lower limits
Here is how I got around the black-bar problem:
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/webpub/Eliminating_Black_Rules_Equation.html
- jos
At 12:15 PM 4/11/2011, Pat Somerville wrote:
Thanks, Nasser M. Abbasi, for kindly taking the time to reply to me. I
found the file /usr/lib/latex2html/l2hconf.pm. In it among other lines
the following lines existed, but not necessarily consecutively:
$DVIPSOPT .=" -E"; (Please notice the period before the equals sign.)
$MATH_SCALE_FACTOR=1.6;
#$DISP_SCALE_FACTOR=1;
So after receiving your e-mail letter I changed two of those lines to
read:
$MATH_SCALE_FACTOR=1.8;
$DISP_SCALE_FACTOR=1.0;
.
Results in the .html file produced by LaTeX2HTML: The black line segment
under the integral sign with the limits of integration having algebraic
fractions in them was removed. But the black line segments under
integral
signs produced from the LaTeX commands containing \int\limits
_{-\infty}^{+\infty} remained. Those were probably among 27 reported
errors on 27 images. I don't know with which images all of the other
errors were. But I think I remember at least one pnmcrop-related error
while latex2html was processing my .tex file.
Next I changed to $MATH_SCALE_FACTOR=2.0; in the file l2hconf.pm and
otherwise did not change any other lines in that file.
Results: There were errors on 27 images. The black segment under the
integral sign with algebraic fractional limits returned.
Continuing with the same settings in l2hconf.pm I made a test, .tex file
containing some commands very similar to
\begin{equation}
\int\limits _{-\infty}^{+\infty}
\end{equation}
and then produced a .html file from that .tex file using a latex2html...
command. In the resulting .html file a black line segment existed under
the integral sign with the limits of positive and negative infinity.
What
should I do now to try to eliminate the unwanted black line segments
under
some of the integral signs? Note also that there were also around 20
images with errors reported while latex2html attempted to generate them;
and in detail I don't yet know what obvious problems there were, if any,
with the associated mathematical symbols associated with the images for
which errors were reported by LaTeX2HTML.
Pat
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From: "Nasser M. Abbasi" <n...@12000.org>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:37 AM
To: <latex2html@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [l2h] Black bars under integral signs when the limits
ofintegrationare -\infty and +\infty or an algebraic fraction for
each of the upper and lower limits
On 4/10/2011 10:29 PM, Pat Somerville wrote:
Question: What can I do to eliminate all of such examples of unwanted
black bars
underneath some of the integral signs?
This sounds like the same known problem which was mentioned here some
time ago?
Check http://12000.org/my_notes/l2hwin/index.htm and look for
item (2) under "some errors and possible solutions"
Here it is:
"some of the bitmap images produced for the mathematics in the
document have a solid dark bar, usually at the bottom or the
side of the bitmap image. The reason for this is unknown.
But I found by trial and error that setting the following
values in my l2hconf.pm eliminated most if not all of these
$MATH_SCALE_FACTOR = 1.8;
$DISP_SCALE_FACTOR = 1.0;
"
Something to try to see if it will fix your problem.
--Nasser
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