Hi Michael, On Monday, 2013-05-06 14:27:47 +0100, Michael Bauer wrote:
> 1) I realise Eike only asked for a bug to be filed (that in itself > is hurdle #1 as it requires knowledge of what a bug is and how to > file one by the way) RFE bugs are the usual mean to get something into the code. Having taken a bug helps the developer to list pending tasks / schedule / prioritize / create dependencies. A mail vanishes out of sight into the archive. > 2) Eike referred to the Wiki page (presumably to give Kairaba > additional information on requesting new languages) > 3) I went and read said Wiki page and it struck me how confusing > this seems to me and how scary it must be to someone who is new to > localization and primarily a new translator and who googles > "localizing LibreOffice" and comes across said page without knowing > about this l10n mailing list, so that's hurdle #2 What's wrong about https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide/Adding_a_New_Language_or_Locale#Request_a_new_language.2Flocale_to_be_added that more or less says "just request language foobar and if the above is mumbo-jumbo to you the poor i18n developer will have to figure it out anyway"? > 4) I then posted whether that page should not have a big sign > slapped across it saying "if this confuses you, just send us an > email" (and foolishly in the same sentence suggested this *might* > require a new list. That's clearly a lead balloon so let's not bring > that up again) It's a wiki, feel free to clarify or even rearrange the page but please do not remove information. > I just googled "translating LibreOffice" and actually this page > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/ (which is a lot > more readable... I'd be tempted to add a small diagram though) does > come out on top so perhaps it was just an unfortunate > misunderstanding on my behlaf that, having followed Eike's link, I > assume that was the main landing page for potential localizers. It is, and the link I gave is the page about the technical mumbo-jumbo. My reply was to a mail that was cross-posted on the developer list, I assumed a reference to a wiki page that includes a link to file a bug was not out of scope for the original poster. After all, he already gave the information that page talks about. > So I guess it narrows my concerns down to a) is that a good > reference page to give to new people whose IT skills are an unknown > and b) if bugfiling should really be done by the newbie? If not, then the newbie would certainly find a merciful soul on this l10n list here who would help him with that, wouldn't he? Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GPG key ID: 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A For key transition see http://erack.de/key-transition-2013-01-10.txt.asc Support the FSFE, care about Free Software! https://fsfe.org/support/?erack -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
