I don't see where this argument is leading to. So far there are arguments that 
qemu/kvm sucks as a desktop virtualization, now suddenly the gui tools are 
shitty and everything should be done cli , because there's no man pages for 
virt-manager. Explain.

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Zijlstra <pet...@infradead.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anth...@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mi...@elte.hu>, Avi Kivity <a...@redhat.com>, Yanmin Zhang 
<yanmin_zh...@linux.intel.com>, ming m lin <ming.m....@intel.com>, sheng yang 
<sheng.y...@intel.com>, Jes Sorensen <jes.soren...@redhat.com>, KVM General 
<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Zachary Amsden <zams...@redhat.com>, Gleb Natapov 
<g...@redhat.com>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <a...@redhat.com>, Fr??d??ric 
Weisbecker <fweis...@gmail.com>, Thomas Gleixner <t...@linutronix.de>, H. Peter 
Anvin <h...@zytor.com>, Arjan van de Ven <ar...@infradead.org>, Cole Robinson 
<crobi...@redhat.com>
Sent: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:11:06 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Re: KVM usability
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:14 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> The real 
> question to ask is, why are you using qemu directly instead of using 
> virt-manager? 
Because I suspect Ingo, like me, is a command line user, launching a gui
to start kvm when there is a kvm command around just sounds daft.
Also, I just installed and tried it, virt-manager is a total piece of
shit, I wouldn't even know how to begin telling it how to start my
freshly baked kernel with serial console on stdio and some block image I
just created from the gentoo stage3 tarball.
That is, after 5 minutes clicking I have no idea how to even launch an
ISO with the thing, I prefer reading the kvm manpage over using some
mouse only gui crap like that.
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