How heavy is the Yamaha Apex installation?

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From: KRnet <[email protected]> on behalf of Zachary Martine via 
KRnet <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2025 9:40:29 AM
To: KRnet <[email protected]>
Cc: Zachary Martine <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: KRnet> 2L VW/ Turbo

When price is no object, the 916is and 3 blade airmaster prop with beta & 
reverse is always an option. My hangar neighbors newly completed kitfox climbs 
at over 2500fpm. But that would be well past the frugal flyer that the kr 
enspirits. ~90k installed for that combo.

There is always the yamaha apex w/ teal skytrax gearbox and an airmaster prop. 
~25k for 180hp or turbo it up to 360hp. All about risk to performance tradeoff, 
at that point a lancair is more your flavor.



On Tue, Aug 12, 2025, 9:04 AM Larry Flesner via KRnet 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


On 8/12/2025 1:58 AM, tiekie bernardus wrote:
Good day.
Thank you Larry and John for your contribution about the turbo. I agree will 
all that was said, although it will be nice to have the extra speed and power 
as I'm a bit of a speed junkey.
Regards
Tiekie

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It was suggested that a "constant speed" prop would benefit a turbo 
installation and that is true but a "constant speed"  (variable pitch) 
propeller would benefit any type of engine, gas, diesel, turbine.   There is 
benefit to a turbo with a fixed pitch prop in that the engine is capable of 
producing more HP on takeoff and climb and continue to produce rated HP at 
altitude.  It would require a prop with more pitch / diameter to handle the 
additional HP and additional modifications to the engine / airframe to 
dissipate the engine heat from from the extra power generated.  Many modern 
automobiles are going to smaller turbo-ed engines to increase mileage numbers 
but not without reliability concerns.  Design out as many failure points as 
possible and have a disciplined operating procedures.  Many do so successfully.

Larry Flesner

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